Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Historical essay

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was this pisses me off terribly, but it's a no consensus; keep. Johnleemk | Talk 14:03, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Historical essay

Not an article, and unlikely to become one. All this is is a definition of a term and the rules of writing in one (unspecified) context. There will be other ways of using this term (eg. Essay for History). However to collect a bunch of ways this term can be used is not going to be encyclopedic either--Doc ask? 23:31, 17 January 2006 (UTC) -Doc ask? 23:31, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete. Per WP:NOT: Wikipedia is not a how-to guide. Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Wikipedia is not a repository of links. -- Saberwyn - The Zoids Expansion Project 00:18, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep:I learnt something from the article. I'm sure it will expand into how to write one soon. Plus nominator doesn't support his reasons with any policy such as WP:DP. --CyclePat 03:20, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
What type of crap is this? You want deletion rule 43 subsection 394B(iv)? I stated that this term has many unrelated usages, and I cannot see how an encyclopedia article can be written here. If you want to talk about policy, you say 'it will expand into how to write one soon' - but WP:NOT a 'how to', so it can't do that. The point is, it gives the definition of the term within some section of US schooling (I presume, because there is insufficient context to judge). Actually, taken generally, every piece of info is simply wrong. 'Historical essay' more usualy means an essay by a historian taking any form whatsoever, thus it is not neccessarily a 'written assignment' it may not 'include a thesis' it may, or may not be 'supported with facts or sources'. If we rewrite the article to be general enough to be correct, we'd be left with 'an Historical essay is an essay pertaining to some subject of history - the essay may take any form whatsoever'. And that would be a dicdef - and we'd delete it. --Doc ask? 10:22, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. This could be a great and useful article if cleaned up and expanded. Logophile 08:03, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, this is encyclopedic, but needs a total cleanup. --Terence Ong 10:27, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
Could you explain this, please? What do you mean by encyclopedic - if we remove everything that is untrue about the term, we have nothing left. --Doc ask? 10:36, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete - What next? Articles for Math homework and Band practice? Exercise a little self-restraint here, folks. Ξxtreme Unction|yakkity yak 11:30, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
  • There are a lot (maybe infinite) possible permutations of words, a number of which are commonly used. Should we have an article on what time is it, then? Or geological essay? As it stands the article is pretty much a dicdef, IMO. I don't care what happens to it (transwiki?), as long as the eventual outcome is along the lines of strong delete. Johnleemk | Talk 11:37, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. The user who created this article also created Psychology essay and Philosophical essay. We may want to expand our discussion to those. NoSeptember talk 17:05, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Happy to extend my vote to delete all - closing admin take note that the same principles apply to all.-Doc ask? 17:54, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. I found this page useful, so... maybe we'll rewrite it a bit? --Master Psychologist 18:36, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. I did have in mind expanding it to cover all the meanings of the term and make it more general --Essaywriting 18:52, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, and expand essay if you have new information to add. // Pathoschild (admin / talk) 19:26, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Redirect all to essay. —Ruud 19:53, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Think of kids today using wikipedia as a starting point for their home work. Rember your target audience. The fact that you are not interested or even impressed doesn't mean it's not useful and fitting... Wit 18:23, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
    • WARNING: This is going to come across as a lot snappier than I intend it, but here goes. Wit, I would like you to scroll up to the top of the page, look on the left hand side, and read the four words under the funky logo. Pay particular attention to the fourth word. This is an encyclopedia, not a homework resource. -- Saberwyn - The Zoids Expansion Project 10:34, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
      • You're kidding, right? Are we making this for 2300 AD archaeologists finding 'some' hard drive in the mud - containing the ultimate encyclopedia of 2006 - or for people happy to USE this today???
  • Keep and Expand - I could see this growing into a decent article.--God of War 19:22, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong keep. Excellent article for anyone wishing to write a historical essay. - Mykola Petrenko 20:07, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Do your own homework: if you need help with a specific part or concept of your homework, feel free to ask, but please do not post entire homework questions and expect us to give you the answers. Letting someone else do your homework makes you learn nothing in the process, nor does it allow us Wikipedians to fulfill our mission of ensuring that every person on Earth, such as you, has access to the total sum of human knowledge. Oh, and merge in essay. Alphax τεχ 13:55, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
→ Redirects (and merges) are
cheap, fun, and a great way to
inflate your edit count!
Happy to redirect - but there is nothing here worth merging (for all the reasons given above) --Doc ask? 14:05, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge anything worth keeping with essay. Haakon 14:07, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Redirect to essay. There's nothing worth merging.--cj | talk 14:22, 20 January 2006 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.