Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hilton, Argyll and Bute

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Although all inhabited geographic places are inherantly notable, the participants in this debate have demonstrated that this is a single farm or other smaller subset/ group of buildings of such a settlement. Jerry talk ¤ count/logs 22:28, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hilton, Argyll and Bute

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It appears to be an individual farm, rather than an actual settlement containing multiple families and houses. Anyone who's ever looked at an Ordnance Survey map should know that there are hundreds of named isolated cottages and farmhouses on each map, and most of them do not merit a Wikipedia article due to their utter non-notability. No possibility of expansion. h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 22:19, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Ben MacDuiTalk/Walk 10:09, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep The sources provided demonstrate that the contention that there is no possibility of expansion is wrong. One of them mentions Leslie Crowther as a sometime resident and he was very famous. Colonel Warden (talk) 11:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep All settlements are inherently notable. This is a settlement according to the Ordnance Survey - isolated cottages and farms are labeled as such by the OS and it's clearly verifiable as a small place but a settlement not a farm. And the editing of the article to claim it was a former farm is little more than an attempt at deletion rather than reading the map, or the OS gazetteer to which the article is sourced, which certainly shows it exists and is not a farm: want to see how OS notes farms? Take a look at Hilton farm at 57°24′00″N, 2°05′30″W or 56°08′06″N, 3°21′36″W - clearly labeled as farms. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:49, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
  • I have a paper copy of the map that this is on. I'll look for this just now and may consider withdrawing the nomination.--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 23:07, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
  • I found it, and it still looks like one building - a farm or cottage. There are many on the Isle of Bute, and these are usually not notable, because they're individual buildings. If it was a hamlet I'd definitely want to keep it but it appears to be one building.--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 23:10, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. per arguments above.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 15:24, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Weak delete. A reading of the Bute Farms source would seem to indicate that the Hilton Farm is simply a single farm, not a settlement or village. (The other source could be read either way.) The OS map examples are not conclusive either way. --MCB (talk) 06:16, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete.This OS map shows Hilton as being even smaller than the two Hilton Farms mentioned by Carlossuarez46 above. It does appear to show two buildings next to each other, with a combined frontage of about 30m. But these look too small even to be a farm, and hence not notable. Kim Dent-Brown (Talk) 21:58, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.