Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hill College House
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 17:14, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Hill College House
Was tagged speedy and contested; it's a dorm that was originally designed by Eero Saarinen. He's notable, but the dorm doesn't seem to me any more notable than the usual dorm. Is every building by a notable architect inherently notable or must they still pass WP:N? I think that they must and this doesn't. Carlossuarez46 20:02, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
- Comment The building itself may be mildly notable. I found two refs that appear to be about it. Jakew 21:30, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
- weak keep on the basis of those refs. I think it quite likely that every major building designed by a famous architect is notable, as articles and book chapters tend to be written about every one of their major works. I wouldn't like to say it as a general principle, though. DGG (talk) 02:35, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
- Delete - I think that we need more definitive evidence as to the notability of this dorm. TerriersFan 02:55, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per lack of coverage from independent sources. I really dont think we should have articles for every dorm on every campus - Too much directory information. Maybe merge into Campus Housing at UPenn Corpx 04:38, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
- Weak keep As written, the article is less about Saarinen's work and more about a dorm. If it is kept, it needs to lose the dormcruft aspect and emphasize its architecture. Unfortunately, I don't have much on Saarinen in my library, or I'd give it a rehab. In general, under proposed (but never adopted) guidelines for architectural notability [1], this building would qualify. Even so, some buildings by notable architects shouldn't qualify - for instance, Frank Gehry did some unfortunate strip malls early in his career that wouldn't, in good conscience, pass notability criteria. Hill House, however, was a semi-major work from the peak of Saarinen's career, using a design element (an atrium) that was unusual for the time. ... I'll take some pruning shears to the article and we'll see what's left. Acroterion (talk) 12:22, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
- Keep based on references and a Eero Saarinen designed house is notable. Yes, some notable architects designed some non-notable dogs (i.e. the Gehry strip mall example above), but this major project isn't one of those. --Oakshade 23:20, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. It doesn't appear to be the most famous building designed by Eero Saarinen, but the building has features that distinguish it from other college dorms. The large atrium, rough brick exterior, and a symbolic "drawbridge" are elements that you won't find just anywhere. This article says that the house was recognized as an architectural masterpiece when it was built. --Elkman (Elkspeak) 22:55, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
- Keep per Acroterion (and his edits). --Bfigura (talk) 21:10, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
