Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Herbert "Bert" Weaver

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Adding references to the article, though, would be a good idea. — TKD::Talk 08:16, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Herbert "Bert" Weaver

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Even the tournament he won doesn't have an article. #311 in list of highest grossing golfers -- in a sport which tends to be dominated by a few people for decades. Scott.wheeler 00:27, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep per WP:BIO criteria for athletes: "Competitors who have played in a fully professional league, or a competition of equivalent standing in a non-league sport such as swimming or tennis". Kinston eagle 01:24, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep if the PGA win is verifiable. Winning at the highest level definitely makes one notable Corpx 02:29, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment You might want to take a look at the PGA Tour page. There are a number of reasons why a specific weekly tour event might not be particularly notable. (For instance if there was a more important event the same week.) I can't find any record of the event in 1965 (though, to be clear I actually don't doubt that it happened or that Weaver won it) and only a few statistics about Weaver from 1970 on. And apparently the 311 above was just for that tour. Overall he ranks #511. Even golf sites don't mention his wins and I can't find a single article about him. Scott.wheeler 09:50, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. Here's verification of his Jacksonville win (although one needs to pay to see the whole article). If any soccer player who has appeared in only one match at the highest level is considered notable enough for a WP article, I think anyone who has earned a PGA Tour card—and, even more so, won a PGA tournament that in other years was won by such golfers as Sam Snead and Gary Player—is sufficiently notable as well. Deor 11:49, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
  • For the record, I don't agree that everyone that has ever appeared in a top-level league belongs in WP as the majority to not meet more general notability requirements. There was a draft for new text there which seemed more sensible, but it's recently been blanked in preparation for a new draft. Scott.wheeler 15:15, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Meets WP:BIO and agree that winning a PGA tour event clearly establishes notability. It was not a minor event with a player such as Tony Jacklin winning the event in 1968 showing that the highest level of players did compete at the tournament. Davewild 19:22, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.