Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Henry Hudson Elementary School

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Non-admin closure. The Evil Spartan (talk) 09:40, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Henry Hudson Elementary School

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This article on a Vancouver elementary school fails to establish notability under WP:SCHOOLS Capitalistroadster (talk) 00:16, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Might I suggest WP:SCL instead? TerriersFan (talk) 04:06, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete Fails to establish notability as nom stated. Article seems like nothing more than a bulletin board for upcoming events. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.34.217.222 (talk) 02:47, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of British Columbia-related deletions. -- A. B. (talk) 01:16, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge with School District 39 Vancouver, its district. J-ſtanContribsUser page 03:37, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. We have entries in Wikipedia for every mickey-mouse village and hamlet in the USA, yet people seek to delete a school's entry? Why? Markb (talk) 12:22, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete because schools are not notable and do not belong in an encyclopedia unless they are special in some way. You want to start deleting non-notable towns in the U.S? I'll be right behind you. WP is not a directory, repository for school information, or atlas. Or at least it shouldn't be. Epthorn (talk) 16:21, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge - agree with J-stan. ScarianTalk 16:59, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge. Current consensus holds that nothing below a high school is self-evidently notable.  RGTraynor  18:21, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
    • Weak Keep: It's still the case that nothing at this level is self-evidently notable, and I'm vastly unimpressed by "famous alumni" (everyone famous went to school somewhere), but there are enough sourced assertions of notability now to warrant keeping.  RGTraynor  12:06, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. —Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 18:35, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak delete, prefer merge. Please note that there is no consensus for which schools stay and which schools go. The current proposal is at Wikipedia:Notability (schools). WP:SCHOOLS, the nom's rationale here, is in fact a disambiguation page. However, that being said, this one doesn't seem notable by any standard - new, old, or proposed. Schools are notorious for "self-proclaiming" any awards they've received. The Henry Hudson website does no such thing. Keeper | 76 20:45, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Changing to keep per improvements to article, sourcing done by DoubleBlue and TerriersFan. Keeper | 76 15:08, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per Epthorn, but merge if needed. CRGreathouse (t | c) 21:08, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep based on some of the compelling arguments already made but merging is not a bad idea either Coccyx Bloccyx (talk) 00:12, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete article and redirect to School District 39 Vancouver. Mh29255 (talk) 01:28, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep - fairly large school, lots of programs, good "report card" from the provincial 'crats. Merge to the school district of it's not quite there by consensus. Bearian (talk) 00:33, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - still being expanded but already well notable with 2 alumni and a notable history. TerriersFan (talk) 04:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - Quite a well sourced and expanded article now, close to passing WP:N if it does not already. If the result is that there is consensus that the school is not notable enough for its own article; I suggest merging and re-directing into School District 39 Vancouver rather than deletion. Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 12:52, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. Historic school in Vancouver (likely oldest elementary in Kitsilano) with history of serving immigrant families. The Alan King recollections that TerriersFan found are an interesting read. DoubleBlue (Talk) 15:42, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep contrary to the nom, WP:SCHOOLS isn't a policy or guideline. WP:N is, and the school meets its notability standard at this point. I had no idea there were a good number of Sikhs in that part of the world as far back as the Depression. Interesting. Noroton (talk) 03:41, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per Bearian, the school is fairly large and appears to meet WP:N guidelines. (jarbarf) (talk) 00:07, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
  • At most a Weak Keep - notability depends on "no corporal punishment", when that was usual and "offered course for non-English children", but are these factors notable enough. The article is better than many, but notability is still questionable. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:01, 23 December 2007 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.