Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Henrietta the four-legged chicken

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Merge to Polymelia. This certainly reminds me of all the animals that have made their way into the Polycephaly article. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-11 10:55Z

[edit] Henrietta the four-legged chicken

Henrietta the four-legged chicken (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Title says it all. Speedy deletion was overturned on review, so is now here for further discussion. Procedural nomination, no opinion. ~ trialsanderrors 03:11, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete does not meet the criteria for notability.Wikidudeman (talk) 03:15, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Very weak keep. Though I haven't found it, I'm betting there's another source out there. Of course, the Associated Press could be hoaxing us, or be mistaken. --N Shar 03:37, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment They did a story on the chicken on The Daily Show a while back...something about a chicken with another chicken up its butt. I think that this has the potential to be a worthy article, but I'm going to remain neutral because I don't think that I'm knowledgable enough on deletion policies (except for speedy deletion) to make a good decision either way. --Адам12901 Talk 03:40, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete failing that, merge as an interesting factoid into an article on chickens, genetic anomolies, etc.--William Thweatt Talk | Contribs 03:50, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep, I suppose Delete - genetic anomalies among livestock are actually more common that people think--there's probably thousands of four-legged chickens in the US (it might be rarer to find a chicken that has a name). However, the article does get over 1,000 unique hits in Google, including a number of news articles. I'm largely neutral because WP:IDONTLIKEIT is not a reason for deletion, and I can't think of a much better one (NN is debatable--I think the subject-matter passes it).
  • Changing again: Merge into Polymelia per Totnesmartin. Black Falcon 03:59, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
    • I'm changing my vote to delete after seeing that most of the sources for this article are essentially reproductions of the same AP wire. Thus, the article fails WP:Notability (lack of multiplicity of coverage). Black Falcon 04:26, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete been merged redirect to Polymelia WP:N calls for multiple, non-trivial published works from sources that are reliable and independent of the subject itself and each other. Last time I counted one was less then multiple. I kind of like the story, nice human interest all that but... Jeepday 04:06, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  • changed my vote, looks like the merge has been completed, I suggest a redirect to Polymelia at the end of the AfD. Jeepday 03:36, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: Sources - here are some sources for the article (essentially the same story in all--4 legged chicken--with some differences). As you may note from my comment above, I am largely neutral. CBS News, MSNBC, [1], and USA Today.
    • The CBS, MSNBC, and USA Today stories are all the same single Associated Press wire story, published by those news services. That's one published work, published by multiple publishers. Uncle G 10:53, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, there seems to have been a spurt of media coverage when the chicken was born, but nothing further than very minor flash-in-the-pan notability. Compare Mike the Headless Chicken, which continued to gain media coverage for months afterwards, and is still considered a local icon. Krimpet 04:17, 6 February 2007 (UTC) Merge into Polymelia per Kla'quot, it's worth a blurb there. Krimpet 05:01, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep Weakest of deletesor Merge into an article on genetic abnormalities. (Edited to add: On reflection, this story, unlike the hen herself, lacks sufficient "legs" to go from news story to encyclopedia article, since the coverage only lasted one day.) Added a video feature on MSNBC which was not duplicative of the AP story and shows her in action. 2 reliable sources is multiple (barely). This could also be merged to some article on genetic abnormalities or conjoined twins or whatever is going on. Hey, I know humans born with extra toes; practically the same thing. This is at the low end of showing something can be news but not encyclopedic. Edison 05:15, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep for the same reasons as the others above. Bigpoogenerator 05:56, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, utterly un-notable weird news story. --Dhartung | Talk 06:50, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep as an interesting scientific fact more than as a notable event or notable chicken. Strongly consider merging into other scientific articles on congenital abnormalities. Probably one sentence and a reference would fit nicely into Polydactyl Merge into Polymelia. Kla'quot 03:53, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep or merge. It does have major news mentions.-MsHyde 09:24, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep multiple major news sources. --Candy-Panda 11:06, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Weakest keep ever per substantial national news coverage. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 16:23, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

*Reluctant Delete - can't have articles on every four-legged chicken/winged cat/talking dog <"sausages!">in the world, however cute. Totnesmartin 16:51, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Merge with Polymelia (the condition of having extra limbs), which has a "notable cases" section. Actually I'll put a precis of Henrietta there now. Totnesmartin 12:26, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Done Totnesmartin 12:36, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Unconditional delete Hobbeslover talk/contribs 20:42, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete unless additional sources provided Right now it appears there is basically one news story about this chicken. Doesn't quite reach the recommended multiple non-trivial coverage bar. If additional sources can be provided that are not simply a copy of the original story from the newswire, then I'll reconsider. I'd especially be interested in an article about the chicken published well after the original news story, as that would establish multiple sources covering it over a wider time period. Dugwiki 20:50, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge with Animals with more than the normal number of legs Delete. Semperf 20:59, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete unless more sources can be found. Philippe Beaudette 20:59, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Needs multiple indepedant non trival works. Mutations are not uncommon. Seems to only get mention on some local news site.--Dacium 22:26, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete unless somebody can find some policy about Notable-because-made-me-guffaw-on-a-not-so-happy-day. --Goochelaar 23:26, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep- it should be merged with something. I'm not sure what, but it belongs in Wikipedia. One day someone will writing a paper on Naturally occurring freaks of nature and this will be one of the items that will help them. MRoberts <> 00:26, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment (Sorry to repeat from above, where nobody will read it): I just discovered a suitable merge target: add to the list of examples on Polymelia. Kla'quot 03:58, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Tentative keep, ideally merge if someone can find a good place for it. Everyking 05:51, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. Trivial news item, wich WP:NOT for. Sandstein 07:03, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge into Congenital disorder or if not possible, delete This is trivial news that happens to have recieved coverage because it is slightly humourous, not the matter for an encyclopaedia article. RHB Talk - Edits 16:52, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep if there was an article on notable animal mutants it would be a useful merge but there isn't. As a note in Polymelia it is okay, but that seems to be focused on humans, not animals, and doesn't provide room for expansion. SchmuckyTheCat 17:32, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Actually, just for clarification, polymelia applies to all animals (including humans) as far as I can tell (although you are right that the article is presently focused more on humans). In addition, it currently containts the whole of the Henrietta article. If there is a unique article for non-human animal mutation, then it should definitely go there. Cheers, Black Falcon 17:36, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep, appears to just meet N and V requirements. —siroχo 22:00, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.