Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hello Operator (band)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep fuddlemark (befuddle me!) 14:30, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello Operator (band)

Not Notable; text is advertising. Their big claim to notability is opening for a Hilary Duff tour (ugh!) I vote we wait until they have a hit single before we allow drek like this in... --Brianyoumans 06:09, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete as advertising. BigHaz 07:49, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong keep and cleanup. They've verifiabily completed a national tour of Canada [1], and have been featured in multiple media outlets (MuchMusic in the previous link, Netscape Entertainment, an appearance on Canadian MTV, CBC. That's two meets of WP:MUSIC minimum. --badlydrawnjeff talk 11:13, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep with complete rewrite per BDJeff. Obviously, this article is an ad, and almost certainly a copyvio from the band's official site. However, Jeff has pointed out how they pass WP:MUSIC, and I'm with him ont hat one. Also, I love that they got their name from a great White Stripes song (though, to be fair, there are few White Stripes songs that aren't great). -- Kicking222 13:28, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as per nom. wikipediatrix 16:03, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment I'm not sure how "going on a national tour" in WP:MUSIC is usually interpreted; it certainly wasn't their tour, they were opening for a segment (Canada) of a longer tour by a major act. I've seen plenty of opening acts who were just hired to fill some space and not detract from the main act. Here is a review of the Duff show in London, Ontario, with all of 3 lines at the bottom on Hello Operator, one of which came from one of the band members being local. This review mentions the fact that they opened the Calgary show, but otherwise ignores them. As for multiple appearances in media... well, the Hilary Duff tour press release got covered a few places, yeah. But if you look down the list of sites you get googling, say, "hello operator fan" - there is just no buzz about these guys. And they were supposed to have an album out 'in the spring', and it hasn't appeared. They are a MySpace band.... --Brianyoumans 16:06, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
    • There was discussion at WP:MUSIC regarding that, and nothing came of it in terms of forcing interpretation to headlining shows. Even without the touring, however, they reach the multiple media mentions guideline for WP:MUSIC, as I've demonstrated above. Buzz is irrelevant, it's about finding verifiable information to assert the nobility in this case. --badlydrawnjeff talk 16:11, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Notability is not an issue; there are far less notable things that have passed AfD. Also, bad faith nomination.  Cdcon  16:49, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure it's possible to make a bad faith nomination for deletion of a band who's official page is on MySpace. In any event, there's no evidence here of a bad faith nomination. Please refrain from such personal attacks against other posters. WilyD 17:00, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep - that said, a national tour is apparently a criterion at WP:MUSIC, thus this lousy band gets by on the skin of its teeth. WilyD 17:00, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment - I've rewritten and stubbed this for now so it's at least a verifiable stub. --badlydrawnjeff talk 17:43, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
    • Sigh. These guys don't even have an album out. Well, I suppose they are going to squeak by. I have been doing a lot of deleting recently, I should have gone over WP:MUSIC first before AFDing this one. I have improved the article a little more, and I guess I am changing my vote to an apathetic Neutral. --Brianyoumans 17:57, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Band did a national tour as an opening act to a well-known performer. Meets the notability bar. Zaxem 09:43, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.