Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Heartbreak and Triumph
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Wizardman 16:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Heartbreak and Triumph
"Heartbreak and Triumph" is a book about a professional wrestler which seems basically promotional in nature. The Wikipedia article seems similarly promotional and/or fan-created, but more importantly it does not seem to pass our notability guidelines for books. There are five criteria by which a book could gain enough notability to warrant an article, and this book would only seem to have a shot at the first one. However I don't see any reviews of this book at all, i.e. I'm not finding any serious discussion of this book in "multiple, non-trivial published works whose sources are independent of the book itself." As it is therefore not-notable by our guidelines, it needs to be deleted. If others disagree and the article is kept it at least needs a serious rewrite. The current version is full of incomplete sentences. Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 22:54, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- Strong delete per WP:ADVERT. The citation at the Shawn Michaels article is quite sufficient, and any biographical details are already covered more neutrally there. Gordonofcartoon 00:12, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- Weak delete - [1], [2]. Well, I did find a couple secondary sources/reviews for it and it was released by a major house, but I don't think it survives WP:BOOK as written. Into The Fray T/C 01:23, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete, many celebrities have these sorts of promotional biographies; they're generally not notable. NawlinWiki 02:56, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- Merge with Shawn Michaels' article. Simple as that. Fhb3 16:10, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- Not quite as simple. As it stands, the article is completely unencyclopedic: He's "The Showstopper" who pushes his high-flying abilities to the limit in the squared circle, on ladders, and in steel cages and the like. Once you trim out all the bombast, all you've got is the same material as at Shawn Michaels. Nothing to merge. Gordonofcartoon 17:17, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
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