Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hayim Greenberg

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The result was keep. — CharlotteWebb 04:46, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hayim Greenberg

Nn-bio. 628 Ghits? Delete. M1ss1ontomars2k4 ^{(T | C | @)} 02:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. Ghits are not the best way to measure the notability of someone who died in 1953. Could someone who reads Hebrew take a look at the article in the Hebrew Wikipedia to see if it would be worthwhile to add the information in the Hebrew article to the English article? A bibliography listed under "External links" says: "Hayim Greenberg was one of the leading Labor Zionist thinkers of his day. His writings on Marxism, Zionism, and Judaism, widely influenced and in part formed the political ideology of Labor Zionism in Europe and America." http://www.louisville.edu/a-s/english/subcultures/zionism/bibliography.html --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 03:52, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
• Comment. The Wikis in other languages appear to have been deleted. --Wafulz 04:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Uh, if he was deleted from the Hebrew wiki, how could be notable enough for the English one? I can't actually read the Hebrew page you get to, but the link is the same in the very first version of this article, meaning that, at one time, it was most likely a real article. The "what links here" page does show a link[1], but I can't tell if that backs up the claim that it existed or not... EVula 04:21, 25 October 2006 (UTC) Neutral I'm withdrawing my vote, as it appears that other editors have found good evidence, but I can't bring myself to vote "Keep" without checking the sources, which I don't have the time for right now. EVula 14:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
  • It could be that it was deleted as a copyvio. Just a possibility, though. -- Visviva 05:24, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep I examined some of the ghits that were out there because I agree with Truthbringer's point that the number of them for someone who died that long ago could be misleading. After sifting through a number of articles found and other references in the first 10 pages I've concluded that he seems to be rather notableand meets the WP:BIO guidelines. The article certainly needs expanding and this is not an area of particular interest for me, though I may consider doing it if it seems like the article will be deleted otherwise. --The Way 05:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep He appears to be notable. He appears in American National Biography Edited by John A. Garraty and Mark C. Carnes. New York: Oxford University Press, 1999, vol. 9, pp. 517-518; and in Obituaries on File Compiled by Felice Levy. New York: Facts on File, 1979. Marie Syrkin wrote a book about him entitled Hayim Greenberg published in 1977 by the Youth and Education Department, Jewish National Fund, New York City. The Information Dept., Dept. for Education and Culture in the Diaspora published a book in 1954 In memoriam Hayim Greenberg 76 pages. The article definitely needs expanding. I wonder why the Hebrew article was deleted. Bejnar 06:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Bejnar. Beit Or 06:48, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep GHits are also not the best measure for someone whose name was primarily spelled in Yiddish or Hebrew or Russian but certainly not English. This nomination is silly. - CrazyRussian talk/email 08:06, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletions.

comment, it was not deleted from the hebrew - it never exsisted. Jon513 12:27, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

• Keep per Bejnar. I believe the annotated bibliography alone is sufficient for WP:Notability, WP:V, and WP:BIO. --Shirahadasha 13:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
• KEEP He was an important Zionist figure in America. --Jayrav 18:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Google News Archive [2] establishes him as a notable Zionist intellectual as do the sources in the other opinions above. Capitalistroadster 02:40, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep a distinctly notable Zionist author and theorist. This is an article that deserves attention and expansion, not deletion. Thanks again TruthbringerToronto for your research. Alansohn 03:55, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Improve the article tells me almost nothing except where to go and look for information. If it even started with saying why this person was notable, perhaps it wouldn't be nonimated. --Mike 10:44, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.