Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hawke family

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. A comment on the nominator is not an argument. Chick Bowen 03:18, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hawke family

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Hawke family is a very short list of members of the family that fails purpose of lists. The information already is available in the underlying biography articles, including the family connections. The underlying biography articles are sufficient for navigation purposes and the list is very short and not needed for development. -- Jreferee t/c 19:35, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

• Strong Keep. See Category:Political families of Australia, articles have been tagged for deletion, yet entries in Category:Political families of the United States are fine? Timeshift 10:28, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
• Note for closing Admin the above comment was added on the 7th October by Timeshift not the 30th as part of this my comment was remove in regards to the points raised by other editors. diff. Gnangarra 03:38, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

  WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a valid argument as described in arguments to be aviod at AfD. Gnangarra 03:38, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions. —Orderinchaos 11:01, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
• Delete two members? JJL 22:53, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Per Timeshift. More AfD Cruft Twenty Years 13:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
• Comment I'm on the fence for this one - it was a family which produced a 1950s WA premier and a 1980s-1990s prime minister, but it's hardly a political dynasty as such. Orderinchaos 01:28, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - It's not the number of members as much as the lack of political interrelation. The Court family politicians represented a consistent political approach and operated within the same field of politics. Their family political viewpoint was uniquely theirs and shaped WA politics for generations. The two Hawke family politicians are each notable and the views of the elder influenced the views of the younger, but collectively there is no "Hawke dynasty" approach to political thought. Euryalus 02:58, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per Euryalus. JPD (talk) 16:26, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Per Timeshift. More AfD Cruft ExtraDry 07:58, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Sufficient info in separate articles. -- MightyWarrior 09:21, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - Same as the other family articles nommed by Jreferee. It produced a prime minister, for god sake! Dihydrogen Monoxide (H₂O) 06:10, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete notable people should have their own article and associated family members should be presented within that and where appropriate they should also have an article. While the family connection is real the article is creating a WP:SYNTH by implying some perceived heraldic political dynasty. Gnangarra 02:00, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per Gnangarra and Euryalus - and yes Hydrogen - both families thought they were god or had produced one :| SatuSuro 07:56, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.