Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harvey L. Bass

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. --Coredesat 18:50, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Harvey L. Bass

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Well-written article, but is essentially just an obituary. None of his achievements seem very notable (started, or perhaps just ran for a while, a local newspaper, was chair of local branch of Democratic Party, and won some Rotarian award). No relevant Google hits. Elmer Clark 03:24, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

• weak delete per WP:BIO. Articles like this make me question the usefulness of Wikipedia's notability policies. Niffweed17, Destroyer of Chickens 03:33, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep This person who had a big influence in U.S. history sounds far more notable than the least notable of the 490 Pokemon characters or the random 1/3 mile of state highway, both of which seem to fully satisfy Wikipedia's notability criteria. A genuine human being who had an amazing influence on human events. Inkpaduta 03:58, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

ugh...WP:POKEMON -Elmer Clark 04:35, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

What was this "big influence on U.S. history" and "amazing influence on human events"? Publishing a local newspaper and being a local political figure is not a "big influence" on American history. Gamaliel 21:47, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

• keep local political figures are often notable, but the people who write the articles do not know how to position them in terms of general politics. The significance of this one is probably his role in the changing political climate of his area, and more can & should be said. What the article warrants is a more careful article. Any career can be made to sound trivial. DGG 06:26, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Do you not think the zero Google hits suggest that maybe he was not that notable a figure? -Elmer Clark 06:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

• Delete, I see nothing in the article that meets WP:BIO. --Dhartung | Talk 06:49, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Paul Harris Fellow is the MAJOR award for Rotary, not "some Rotary award". There is considerable criteria one must meet to win a Paul Harris designation. He is not on Wikipedia, however, only because he was a Paul Harris Fellow. His is a unique story. Mr. Bass was in business, journalism, church, and local politics. I thought it was a good idea to include some people from the Panhandle for Wikipedia. It is a large, thinly populated area, and most people selected from there would be unknown except in the local community.Billy Hathorn 12:26, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, seems notable enough as a local figure. Lankiveil 12:54, 11 February 2007 (UTC).
• Keep A notable figure, even in just a community. mrholybrain's talk 12:57, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep not everybody who is notable is on Google, nor is everybody notable who is. Sometimes some people should bother to get away from their computers and into a library Alf photoman 14:00, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Cite a library book that establishes his importance then. Gamaliel 21:47, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

• Delete - per Dhartung -- Bpmullins | Talk 14:27, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:BIO. According to this page, there are over 700,000 Paul Harris Fellows, so it's not as significant an honor as implied above. --Metropolitan90 21:51, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Obviously a solid local worthy, but not notable enough for Wikipedia. Note that this opinion has nothing to do with a Google search, which I agree is not a good way to determine notability, but is based on the fact that he never held any sort of official post even in the small community in which he lived. Small-time local businessmen and chairmen of local political parties, chambers of commerce and rotary clubs are simply not notable enough for Wikipedia. -- Necrothesp 00:59, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
• Strong keep - I have no idea why it is claimed that we have room for 430 articles about 430 separate Pokemon characters, as well as the entire cast of characters from video games and animated cartoons, and obscure hip-hop and rap performers who just self-published their first CDs, but we don't have room for articles about notable real people. Like other articles about local notables who are unheard of outside of their native counties, there may be too much detail; but that's a content issue, not a "keep or delete" issue. This is an article about a Democrat. I am a Republican, and I'm saying, "Strong keep." Dino 15:10, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

This may be a new record! WP:POKEMON invoked twice in one AfD debate! :-P -Elmer Clark 21:51, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

• Delete. Local interest only, not notable enough per WP:BIO. Gamaliel 21:47, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. only of interest in a small area, does not make WP:BIOSlideAndSlip 22:15, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

• I recommended the following article for deletion, but apparently it has been spared. How is this article superior to the one on Harvey Bass, may I ask?

{complete text of Alonzo Sebastian Blalock removed}

Billy Hathorn 20:40, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

It should be deleted. It was not spared, it was never submitted for deletion because you did not complete the AfD submission process. I've deleted it myself because I feel it fits the speedy deletion criteria. Gamaliel 20:45, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.