Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harry Duiven Jr.

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. With no strong support for keeping the article, Horrorshowj puts forth the most compelling argument.--Kubigula (talk) 03:25, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Harry Duiven Jr.

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Not notable boxer, Record seems not notable.I see nothing among the 73 Google hitsthat meets WP:BIO. According to this version, he is most notable for winning by default when his opponent did not show. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 18:22, 9 September 2007 (UTC) (categories) •

• Keep Weak Keep Granted, it's not the best looking article out there, but as to notability of athletes, it says "played in a fully professional league, or a competition of equivalent standing in a non-league sport." I know for baseball & soccer, one pro game establishes notability. In a sport like boxing, wouldn't one pro fight meet WP:BIO?--Cube lurker 23:54, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Comment I don't think so. I think a more substantial record would be needed. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 01:09, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Comment You may be right. It just seems like a consistant appliction of that policy. Looking at the article again, i'm thinking of switching to weak keep and waiting to see if anyone else has strong thoughts as to how athletic notability is applied to fighters.--Cube lurker 02:37, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

• Weak keep - professional athlete, meets WP:BIO. — xDanielx ^T/_C 06:53, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
• Delete The key reason is "competition of equivalent standing in a non-league sport", which is an issue with mma, boxing and the pseudosport of prowrestling. In order have a pro fight, you need the equipment, a promoter to pay you, and that's it. Anyone can call themselves a promoter, and boxing equipment is cheap. Therefore, getting 1 pro fight is easy. Do the participants in Bumfights qualify as professional athletes? He's only fought 4 rounders, which is more or less entry level, and doesn't have a great record at that. Hasn't been ranked, no major opponents/tv time. Doesn't meet any of the general notability options, so I don't see how this guy can be considered notable based on what's available. Horrorshowj 10:01, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. This isn't even an article. It's an incoherent list of unsourced data. -- Rob C. alias Alarob 01:45, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.