Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harmonica-guitarist

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. PeaceNT 04:09, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Harmonica-guitarist

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Completely original research. This is a neologism and the article is written by a single purpose account, HDWitch. The article had a bunch of advertising links which I removed but upon further investigation, it appears that the article was written by Suparn Sharma to promote himself and his business [1]. IrishGuy talk 21:58, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete as being original research and lack of complete lack of sources (of which the external links do not qualify as). -WarthogDemon 22:02, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. Unworthy in its current form. Wasted Time R 22:09, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Seems like something that is "made up in school one day". Loads of results mentioning harmonica players and guitarists, but not a single one that mentions a person that can play both at the same time. Wait until some authoritative music magazine has written about it before having the article here.--Alasdair 01:08, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment As the Billy Joel song goes, everyone loves a harmonica-guitarist, but this one needs sourcing Mandsford 01:15, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete This is Suparn Sharma all right. It was already easy to understand who must have created the article. Moreover, my website mentions that I created this article. (So much for "investigations"!) And to include that one reference of my name in those examples, I made it a point to first find out other similar artistes, about their styles, and only then to include my own name. For that I spent more than a couple of days on the Internet. (And later kept on modifying the article drastically.) Very funny one admin here can't find there are musicians playing both the instruments together. But no wonder; IrishGuy deleted the link that could show him the videos on youtube.com. As far as promoting business is concerned, they don't read it in wikipedia on the net and call for concerts in Carnegie Hall, do they? In fact I may close my own website soon.

And yet I stand by each and every word I said till now. If you can then you should try to answer (or think about) those points. By just having an unheard name, an article doesn't become an advertisement. I was to add much more material in that article slowly, like, I was trying to find when a harmonica neck-holder was invented and by whom, so I could link this word to another page that I would eventually create. Actually I wanted to add history of this duo playing in the current article. But somehow, I want everything to be deleted now. Because I think the people here don't seem to be aged enough. You people seem to be under 30. According to me, this work needs more experience, especially on a public domain.

By the way, ever heard of a "harmonica-pianist"?! Forget it... just a joke!

Thx.

--HDWitch 03:15, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

PS: Please wait for, may be 100 years, for some "authoritative" magazine to publish about one (harmonica-pianist). But somehow, fortunately for this world, I won't let this happen!

    • You stand by each and every word? Even here where you threatened me and Wikipedia at large with a lawsuit if this article were to ever be recreated? In any case, this would fall into the category of an author request for deletion so it should probably just be speedied at this point. IrishGuy talk 08:41, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

You are intelligent. But out of so many questions, lawsuit is the only point that you are able to think about and answer. Neither it is easy to pursue lawsuits this way... especially when they are for FUTURE, nor someone is recreating this article in the next 10 years! Are you getting nightmares? I take back my words. Please sleep well. --HDWitch 10:01, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Your simple threats don't give me nightmares...but that doesn't mean it is OK for you to run around threatening people. IrishGuy talk 10:20, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Excuse me Mr. IrishGuy, please remove my comments from your talk page. Since the threat was not in present tense, you are giving the wrong impression by saying "don't make legal threats" (and repeating it again and again here). A threat has to exist in order for you to say that to someone. And please get through this threat business asap. Everything becomes boring after a while. Even a threat.

Thank you --HDWitch 10:30, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

    • You made it quite clear here that a threat was made when you clarified: Those threats are for future. Whether current or future tense, a legal threat was made. IrishGuy talk 10:34, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Ah... I think now I understand what you are driving at. I think now I understand why you won't leave this threat business. The rules say that one who threatens, has to be banned or something. So you want to ban me, isn't it? May be you could tell me how to close one's account, so you won't need to do even that. See? By the way, please go ahead with whatever you want to do. You have my full support.

Thank you.--HDWitch 10:40, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

    • If I wanted to block you for your threat, you would be blocked. I haven't. You cannot delete your own account, you can simply stop logging in and editing. IrishGuy talk 10:42, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
  • There is going to be at least one very polite request that I am going to make to you, to which even you would agree. Please close my account.

Thank you. --HDWitch 10:48, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Comment Come on folks, this is getting a little out of hand. My reading is that whatever "threats" were made were facetious and that it escalated. To fairly settle this, I propose that we give one of you the harmonica, the other the guitar. HDWitch, please don't close your account and come back with another name... HDWitch is a cool screen name, as is Irishguy. Mandsford 11:50, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Oh thank you. But if you people here had said to me that inclusion of my name while not being a world famous guy was against the policy of this website, then I myself would have promptly removed my name. But what made me REAL mad was that this guy (rather YOU all, he represents all the admins) deleted the names of everyone in the article except Bob Dylan and Neil Young. Actually how nice of me to promote OTHER'S businesses along with my own, by searching them on the net. So, that made me think that you people have not heard about the other artistes, and you won't let them come on your website too, so that makes the knowledge of the encyclopaedia limited to your own knowledge, as well as your own perceptions. Especially when this was something of which there are no examples. If there were one hundred harmonica-guitarists in the world, then anyone's obvious choice would be to include the names of the top four-five in such an article. If you have powers, as admins and as free editors like any other, then you still don't have to use those powers indiscriminately. I hope, to this everybody agrees.

As far as the screen name is concerned, my full screen ID is supposed to be "HolyDoom Witch". May be I can come sometime later... if I get the time again. Thank you. --HDWitch 12:34, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

  • * Ha ha... I read the last section of WP:OR. Man you people are so funny (I'm sorry, but "stupid" is the right word), that you don't understand the meaning of "original research" policy. Where, it has been implied as a filter to keep subjects that first need practical application to prove if the theory has substance eg. of the science stuff, there, you people are wanting someone to theorize if a harmonica and guitar can be played together! That also to be published in a magazine like the physics stuff!!! Oh man I can't believe it! Man, music is a field of practical application. No theories. You have to just pick up the instrument and start playing. If you can play, everything is not true, but verified, so to hell with theories. You get full marks. If you can't, then you get zero, and THEN begin all the theories in the field of music performance. Here in music SEEING is believing. And there are so many harmonica guitarists available on the youtube if you want to see. Which means you people are not following the wiki guidelines intelligently. And this is exactly why I said that this work (of administering a public encyclopaedia) needs experience. Thank you. --HDWitch 19:20, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Not notable even if it was properly sourced. Edward321 04:38, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete zero sources, no significant Ghits, looks like a lot of original research. Melsaran 12:20, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.