Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hans Albrecht III

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The result was delete both. --Bongwarrior (talk) 03:11, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hans Albrecht III

Hans Albrecht III (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View log)

Looks like a self-promotion by a living person. No internet presence aside from Wikipedia, and I haven't been able to find any of the references except the one with an ISBN that's only in four US libraries, meaning no practical verifiable sources so far as I can tell. — Laura Scudder ☎ 01:13, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. —Eastmain (talk) 01:54, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. —Eastmain (talk) 01:54, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. Hoax. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 02:09, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete as failing WP:V. I am adding House of Wetter-Tegerfelden to this nomination. That article was created on the same day by the same author. Though it has a secondary source, all the content of the source article depends on what the writer was told by the subject without any apparent verification. Bridgeplayer (talk) 02:15, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment. No evidence that this is a hoax, but not much evidence that the title is real either. --Eastmain (talk) 03:11, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete both. It would be difficult to prove this is a hoax, but the burden of proof, fortunately for us, is on the other foot. I can find no evidence of this family, either today or in genealogical sources, let alone the noble titles. Fails WP:V. --Dhartung | Talk 03:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Note. See WP:ANI#elaborate scam.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 05:22, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete both.  Esradekan Gibb  "Talk" 07:44, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete both as a hoax. I might reconsider if anybody can give a plausible explanation why there is no evidence on the web for the existence of the 2005 Harper-Collins book "History of the von Wetter-Tegerfeldens" that was added by the IP address that added all references to these two articles. The photograph of "Hans Albrecht III" also looks too much like what some Americans might imagine Swiss nobility might look like, but of course that's no conclusive evidence. --Hans Adler (talk) 17:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete Pretty clear hoax. Sounds like someone genealogically-minded got desperate to tack noble antecedents onto his family. Choess (talk) 02:49, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

I have been looking up things on this family and I have to say I can find alot, not on just this sit but many others, the names have been spelled in Differant ways but its the same family. There is lots wee cant find on the web like church records and and in books we cant find. I think we should KEEP IT UP, i like the history of the family. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.245.7.70 (talk) 00:51, 24 February 2008 (UTC) — 4.245.7.70 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. striking sockpuppet.

*Mr Brecwrewer I want to thank you for the amount of time you spent complaining about this information being put up in just one day, yet you have miraculously researched, pulled Genealogy records, church records, sensus records and read so many books and pulled the information down in the same amount of time and calling the family a hoax. To me you sound like a history HOAX, selfappointed EXPERT. I cannot believe one person to be an expert in Medieval history, European history, Renaissance history, Holy Roman Empire history, Swiss history, US history, Missrouri history, Boone County history etc. You must me a man of great importance to know so much in all these fields that most PhDs can claim to be in only one. One would think that leaving the page up for a time would have given time to have more references to be added. Azsteve (talk) 01:03, 24 February 2008 (UTC) — Azsteve (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. striking sockpuppet.


*I am fascinated by the number of people wanting to delete one man's name, biography, historic house, his entire family history (which many of you have commented some of the geneology is historically accurate). It's claimed to be not notable. However, I discover that Britany Spears IS notable?? This man is not asking for money, not patting himself on the back. HE did not put up the information. He is not selling anything. I am beginning to question the community and donation aspect of WP. Is character assasination is part of the community of WP?Janetw2008 (talk) 01:43, 24 February 2008 (UTC) striking sockpuppet— Janetw2008 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

  • Delete -- Unverifiable genealogical research. -- Shunpiker (talk) 03:08, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

*Keep, Keep I want say that I am Tim mann out of NY, I put up history that I have worked on for over 10 years, Mr Brewcrewer, how hids under a name, did his study in less thr 48 hr. YES i put it up in one day, i had the day off, i work for a living, I had it on paper and put it up, I have tons more to put up too. I would have loved to give you more so you could find it alot faster but brewcewer want it all down. Note that many of you if taken a little time , is finding things on it, but I thank you you took longer then 2 days to try and come to an a Fact. A hoax, No you Mr brewcrewer are, two days and he knows it all, most of you have found thing on the House,Town and Family, If i would have been given more time i would have added a lot, and i woul hope that others would too. But history ill be lost.Mr brewcrewer did not like one thin and went after it all, Jelles ha, Note He took down things on the Conaradines family members i put up, NOTE that as to just Rudolf having no kids, is wrong, on WP, there are 6 other pages that say he did, one of the was Duke of Swabia Berthold I, but he kows all the great histoy man. He took down and changet things with out one Refference and source, he did not let you see what was up till he pulled it down. Over a yera ago i went west on a trip, I stoped by and took a tour of Weyyershaw maner I saw shaw and I meet the man, He is who I said he was and it is a photo of him. Learn to take time and look things up and give it some time, you may learn something Mr brewcrwer self made history giant. You are the HOAX. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Loveofhistorynut (talk • contribs) 17:19, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Also to note that mr. brewcrewer took down over 90% of what i put up in history, He changed took down bi's and full pages that you could not see and let you the good people of WP get only 10% of what I put up and call it a Hoax, It sounds like making people get only 10% of the story is a Hoax. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Loveofhistorynut (talk • contribs) 18:51, 25 February 2008 (UTC) sockpuppet struck

'KEEP KEEP KEEP' You may be able to pull pages from WP, but you can't erase history. You can't erase a family name, heritage, family tree. Before you judge, do your research. If it's a hoax, how is there a family castle in Switzerland? A church? How is there so much other stuff written on this family that is NOT on WP? There are lots of other pages on WP that are not referenced. Are you going to pull them all down?Rehabnurse (talk) 17:08, 26 February 2008 (UTC) sockpuppet struck.


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