Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ha. A. Mehler
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was no consensus – Gurch 14:51, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Ha. A. Mehler
Vanity author Hipocrite - «Talk» 17:05, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Delete per nom Hipocrite - «Talk» 17:06, 6 June 2006 (UTC)No-vote per new info. Any keep on this article requires a discussion of the scientology connection, a topic far far too emotionally charged for me to even consider getting involved with. Hipocrite - «Talk» 18:15, 6 June 2006 (UTC)- Weak Delete per Hipocrite - Adolphus79 17:08, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- Note the article's author has made notes on subject's notability @ Talk:Ha. A. Mehler... - Adolphus79 17:58, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. In current form it is a vanity article. Dbertman 17:09, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per evidence provided by article's creator. Mehler is mentioned in at de.wp as the co-author of a book ([1]), and he has numerous books listed at Amazon.de ([2]). --Fang Aili talk 17:53, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. Maybe notable enough for the German wiki, but not here. Kafziel 18:21, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- Why is an author notable in only one language? Is there a policy or guideline on that? --Fang Aili talk 18:22, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- It's debatable. If he has written something notable in English, then he could be notable enough for the English Wikipedia. He doesn't seem to be all that notable even on the German wiki; he was mentioned in an article (but doesn't have his own) and has some listings on Amazon.de (not a criteria for notability). Kafziel 18:30, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- Ok, I see your points. But I don't think that we should delete this article because he's a German author, but rather that he (might be) a non-notable author (of any particular language). I've created articles on notable Russian and Chinese people who don't have articles on ru.wp or zh.wp (respentively); I don't think that can be used as an argument for non-notability. The de.amazon link is fairly persuasive to me, though I agree that is debateable. And I have no idea what scientology has to do with it. --Fang Aili talk 18:38, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- Ha ha ha, I have no idea what that Scientology bit is about, either. I was wondering myself. :)
- "Ha. A. Mehler alias Horst Mehler, Scientologist author and publisher. Several of his books presented Scientology or Scientologists in "stealth" form, i.e. they didn't have the word Scientology in the title, but were full of it (e.g. the books "Manager Geheimnisse", "Selfmademen und Millionäre", "Psychiatrie - der sanfte Schrei"). " [3],[4], [5]. I am not getting involved in the morass that is any article connected to scientology. Hipocrite - «Talk» 19:02, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- It certainly stands to reason that we will have more articles here than on any other wiki. I'm by no means saying that just because his native language doesn't have an article for him that we can't; I'm just saying that it doesn't really qualify as supporting evidence for his notability that he was mentioned somewhere on the .de site. Always nice to see you, by the way - it's good to find level-headed people on AfD, even if we agree to disagree. Kafziel 18:45, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- Ha ha ha, I have no idea what that Scientology bit is about, either. I was wondering myself. :)
- Ok, I see your points. But I don't think that we should delete this article because he's a German author, but rather that he (might be) a non-notable author (of any particular language). I've created articles on notable Russian and Chinese people who don't have articles on ru.wp or zh.wp (respentively); I don't think that can be used as an argument for non-notability. The de.amazon link is fairly persuasive to me, though I agree that is debateable. And I have no idea what scientology has to do with it. --Fang Aili talk 18:38, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- It's debatable. If he has written something notable in English, then he could be notable enough for the English Wikipedia. He doesn't seem to be all that notable even on the German wiki; he was mentioned in an article (but doesn't have his own) and has some listings on Amazon.de (not a criteria for notability). Kafziel 18:30, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete If not good enough for Germans, that should settle it! Nertz 00:38, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep OK, US Government decides that the guy made EXTRAORDINARY input into literature and you say here he is not notable. Please refer to cited file #200216251 "Evaluation of the Credentials of Mr. Hosrt Mehler, File #200216251, Prepared by Thomas Trzyna, Ph.D. Professor of English, Seatle Pacific University".
So, those professors are plain stupid and nuts, aren't they?
And what do you mean he doesnt' have his own page? This is exactly his own article is being discussed here!
Cimmerian 09:09, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.