Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/HVATOS

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete - CrazyRussian talk/email 14:32, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] HVATOS

A drag car whose claim to fame is that it "holds the record for quickest 13B Turbocharged, tubbed drag car in New Zealand." Recury 14:59, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Keep This is a very well known car in New Zealand and is a New Zealand record holder.Stevee2 22:42, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Keep. It has local relevance and fame in New Zealand among car enthusiasists, and Wikipedia is not paper. Hauser 22:41, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

• Comment This article could use some verifiable citations to ratify its claims. I confess I don't know the significance of that record, and can find no reference to it online. --DaveG12345 23:54, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Re:Comment Thanks for pointing that out :) Ive fixed it up and added another verifiable resource.Stevee2 00:11, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Keep Why is this article up for deletion? People proposing deletions need to state reasons, rather than expecting authors probably not familar with Wikipedia bureacracy to second guess them or wade through reems of policy waffle. My best guess is non-notability - though the car, (and its silly number plate)seem to pass the google test. Presumably the assumption is New Zealand racing is unimportant. Tell Chris Amon, Craig Baird, Andrew Bagnall, Denny Hulme, Robbie Francevic, Bruce McLaren, Possum Bourne, Scott Dixon, Paul Radisich, Jason Richards, Jim Richards, Greg Murphy, Burt Munro, John Britten... Winstonwolfe 02:35, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Wow, good guess! Not-notability it is. For the record, if this car's claim to fame was that it holds the record for the quickest 13B turbocharged, tubbed drag car in the United States, then I would feel just as strongly that it should be deleted. Even if it were the quickest 13B turbocharged, tubbed drag car in the entire world, I would still be nominating it. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, like which car held the record for the quickest 13B turbocharged, tubbed drag car in New Zealand in 2006. Recury 01:40, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom, especially per nom's restatement of nom's position. Tevildo
• Delete per Recury. Hulme and McLaren are famed for careers of driving championships and carbuilding innovation that influenced the sport. This car is of only local and niche interest, that I can see, unless multiple non-trivial coverage in major publications can be shown. Somebody else will build a faster car in this particular class, and then this one will be forgotten by everyone except a few for whom this is their special interest. In my own particular form of motorsports, I assert that Richie Evans had major influence and will be remembered in a hundred years, but I do not claim that any one of his cars (even one that he set records in) is notable enough for its own Wikipedia article. Barno 02:13, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Recury. Stifle (talk) 10:52, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.