Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/HR-XML

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus defaults to keep. I am very disappointed in the number of one hit wonder votes from redlinked and anon editors (most only have thier edits to this AfD in thier contrib history). But even taking this into consideration, there were enough established editors suggesting this subject be kept. There are still outstanding concerns for this article. I'm going to tag it as needing clean up and sourced. I believe John Vandenberg makes the best case for notability, but I'm shocked that none of that made it into the actual article. This article has major issues, so I'm asking those who were in favor of keeping this article to please try your best to bring it up to wikipedia standards.Andrew c [talk] 01:49, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] HR-XML

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Non-notable organization. Most of this article is not in fact about the organization, but about document formats developed by it. Valrith 05:07, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep Good reference information. Capmango 05:28, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, no claims of notability, no independent sources. Corvus cornix 05:52, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep and separate. Document schemas and the actual HR-XML Consortium/certifications are two different things. --Breno talk 06:52, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete unless someone else has written about it. Dazz|Talk 07:47, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete as WP:COI WP:SPAM. Author was one Chuckhr-xml (talk · contribs). MER-C 11:05, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
    • WP:COI is not grounds for deletion. Capmango 14:59, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep I did not create this page, but I did recently update it. Certainly HR-XML is as notable as similar specifications. Consider XBRL, ACORD, Interactive Financial Exchange, RosettaNet, Association for Retail Technology Standards the Data-Interchange-Standards-Association, Health Level 7, eLML, WS-I, hResume and ANSI ASC X12. If we delete HR-XML, I suggest we next turn our attention to deleting each of these others. While the HR-XML page may benefit from additional work, it is more complete and substantive than most of the aforementioned pages concerning organizations/formats that are peers to HR-XML. Per Breno's suggestion, I have clarified the distinction between "HR-XML" -- a term used commonly to refer to a library of XML specifications published by the HR-XML Consortium -- and the Consortium itself. I wouldn't suggest that the two be broken out on separate pages. The same issue of "specification(s)" vs "source organization" applies in the case of the other entries I've cited and is handled in a similar manner. Please review the current page and the the entries for the other consortia I cite.

I made the suggestion in jest that Health Level 7 be deleted -- but I see that this has been suggested before. Perhaps consortia deserve a bit of special handling in terms of establishing "notability". I'd say that the notability of a consortium or standards organization rests on the notability of its members and documented adoption within the particular market the organization is intended to serve. If you don't apply this type of standard, you may well end up deleting many of the entries I cite above. However, if you do, I don't believe you will be serving the best interests of the wikipedia community. --Chuckhr-xml 21:34, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep Content has recently been added that is valuable to the wikipedia community, particularly anyone in the human resource community. --kimhrxml 08:53, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Same comment as previous ones. Many consortia and organizations should be deleted if following the same rules, including major ones such as the Object Management Group or even the World Wide Web Consortium. Pages for tehse organizations merely describe the specifications they created.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.207.74.15 (talk • contribs) 15:31, 2 July 2007
  • Comment the following comment was mistakenly left on the talk page by an anonymous IP.
Please do not delete this entry. The HR-XML Consortium should be part of Wikipedia for sure. Pascal.Tesson 00:33, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Do you have a diff for that? John Vandenberg 03:53, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep This is a global standard in the Human Resources space for exchange of HR related data BillKerrOracleCorp 07:51, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong keep, this is crazy. This article is about the standards, and covers the XML-HR consortium only due to its important role in the standards; is this Afd requesting that the consortium has its article? 232 scholar and 62 book results say this is notable. John Vandenberg 03:53, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 03:53, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Rewrite to make it readable. ¿SFGiДnts! ¿Complain! ¿Analyze! ¿Review! 18:17, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep The HR-XML Consortium is a global standards development organization in the Human Resources space. Its standards are used for the exchange of HR related data. If this is deleted, then information about other similar organizations should be deleted as well. JFritzADP 14:40, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.