Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/HELLYEAH

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. —Quarl ^(talk) 2007-03-05 10:10Z

[edit] HELLYEAH

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Bandcruft - not released anything yet, speculations about future release (crytall ball), prod removed without explanation. Fails Wikipedia:Notability (music). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  04:13, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

• Delete' per nom. WP isn't a soapbox.Intinn^Talk! 11:02, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy Delete Non-notable. —Ocatecir ^Talk 11:35, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Yeah? Just which of our speedy delete criteria do you think even remotely applies here? -MrFizyx 21:45, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Wikipedia is not a crystal ball.A1octopus 14:09, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep They are on the cover of the March 2007 issue of Revolver. (link) This suggests to me that there are some reliable sources beyond the ol' crystal ball. Also the members have already attained notability elsewhere. -MrFizyx 23:07, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Band contains notable artists (Mudvayne, Pantera, Nothingface), and the fact they have a major label record deal. The page will only be re-created once their album is released. Dmiles21 02:16, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep My fucking god, wikipedia is going to hell.--XMBRIAN 05:28, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep WTF this band is real, Album release on April 10th. DONT YOU DARE DELETE THIS! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.160.80.117 (talk) 22:57, 2 March 2007 (UTC).
  • Comment: As has been mentioned above, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Once the album is released, and has been covered by multiple neutral third-party sources, THEN this band might merit an article in Wikipedia.—Carolfrog 05:56, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
    • This is not an artilce on the album. The band has been covered in detail in at least one neutral third-party source. Deleting something that is obviously going to be recreated a month later if a waste of editors time and effort. WP:CRYSTAL does not apply since this article does not contain unverified speculation. -MrFizyx 17:12, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
      • Userfy than, and move back IF it really makes a notable debut.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  17:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
        • You seem to remain ignorant of the fact that the members of this group are already quite notable. I hate heavy metal and even I have heard of a few of them. They have already appeared on a magazine cover together. I am not defending the album artilce. What is the IF?

        Also are you also completely unaware that we have a Category:Upcoming albums? There is some precident here. -MrFizyx 17:24, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Comment. On closer examination, it appears that the band may have members that may be notable. However, the only source is still their MySpace page, and without sources, it probably fails WP:V. At least at this time. I would not be opposed to Userfying this article (if the article creator wants it) until the album release. Once sourced notability is established, it can be moved back into the mainspace. Carolfrog 09:17, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
    • Uh, Okay... Maybe you could try actually looking at the article one more time. I've formated the in-line citations to make it a little bit easier for you to read. You should delete articles when souces don't exist, not because they have been poorly formated. I'm starting to see why people feel compelled to write essays like "Wikipedia:Don't be an ostrich". -MrFizyx 20:48, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
      • Thank you for reformatting the sources so my blind lazy ass could read them. I encourage you to improve wikipedia articles whenever you find deficiencies in them. As a result of your reformatting, I hereby change my vote to Weak Keep. There appears to be at least one reliable source already (possibly two, although I'm concerned about the notability of rockdetector itself), and will probably be more as the date of the album release approaches and passes. — Carolfrog 22:54, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
• Comment: This article as already been through a deletion review and the overwhelming opinion was that the article's deletion should be overturned. -MrFizyx 21:45, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
  • The history goes back a bit further. The article's title was changed by cut and paste rather than page move which leaves an extended history under the title Hell Yeah (now a redirect). An earlier debate was held in December for that title. The result was an unanimous decision to delete (there were no sources at that time). -MrFizyx 23:55, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, real band, notable members. --Sn0wflake 00:16, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. How can this be considered a crystal ball? I heard one of their songs on the radio... --MindlessXD 02:44, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

STRONG Keep! This is a Metal Supergroup with Radio airplay already, Cover stories and many sites.

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.