Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Håkan Andersson

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. WjBscribe 00:53, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Håkan Andersson

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As per a discussion on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ice_Hockey it is felt that just because a persons name is inscribed on the Stanley Cup (NHL championship trophy) they do not warrant their own article unless they were an actual player on the team. This particular gentleman was just a scout on the team. We do not feel this makes him notable enough to be on wikipedia as his own article, and instead intend to create a list of the people on the trophy that were "staff" members on the winning teams to cover their inclusion in wikipedia. Djsasso 17:20, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

  • Comment If he's a director of scouting he may have played at the top level of hockey in Europe 20 or 30 years ago. Not all of those players have detailed information about their histories online. If he played for the national team or in a Swedish fully pro league, he's notable, but finding this out is beyond my capabilities. Is there anyone at the Wikiproject who can go back and look at the old rosters? Edited because you had already answered a question I had asked. --Charlene 20:40, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment He has played hockey at junior level but his career ended after a knee injury. I'm aware of the discussion at WP:HOCKEY and wikipedias rules for notable sports people, but I'm leaning towards a keep based on WP:PAPER and; Andersson is one of the most famous scouts currently in the NHL based on his ability to draft starts in late rounds. Maybe I'm a little biased (swede) so I'll vote blank, but I can also try to improve this article if that helps? --Krm500 23:43, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep I would say scouts are a lot more notable than team accountants, and Hakan Andersson has helped discover such late round gems as Henrik Zetterberg and Pavel Datsyuk. I mean there are some really noteworthy scouts, such as David Conte, who basically was Lou's #1 confidant all these years in Jersey. Croat Canuck Go Leafs Go 00:33, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment Yeah I went back and forth on this guy. But figured I would put him up and see what others thought. --Djsasso 00:48, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete: per nom, fails WP:V, WP:BIO. It has been long-established that a mere junior-level career is not good enough to pass WP:BIO. "One of the most famous scouts?" The applicable elements of WP:BIO are (a) "The person has received significant recognized awards or honors" (b) "Wide name recognition" (c) "The person made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in their specific field" and (d) Multiple features in credible news media." Do we have any reliable sources which suggest the subject passes these criteria?  RGTraynor  20:13, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sr13 (T|C) ER 09:57, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete I agree with the nominator. YechielMan 14:44, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment. If any current NHL scout deserves to have an article, Andersson would be it. With his track record of finding European players that become stars in the NHL, it could easily be argued that he is one of the best. One of the main reasons for Detroit's dominance is their ability to draft quality European players. Since I am not too sure if any professional scout should have an article (based entirely on his scouting ability), I'll withhold my vote. -- JamesTeterenko 20:18, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. GoodDay 17:51, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - My first comment is that the nominator should have modified the text of what appears to be a cut-and-paste nomination. The guy is Director of European Scouting for the Red Wings which is quite different from being a trainer as claimed in the nomination. I can't read Swedish, but this news article would seem to be written about him, and there are many more Google News hits in the archives. Somebody who can read Swedish could probably make the case for verfiable 3rd party coverage based on Google news. -- Whpq 16:50, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment Hmm I could have sworn I fixed that right after posting the nom. Its changed now. --Djsasso 19:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Just so you all know, he is quite notable here in Sweden since he's on tv now and then. --Krm500 01:08, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.