Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Guyz Nite

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. --Coredesat 07:13, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Guyz Nite

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This page's claim to notability is the use of one of their songs in a trailer for the film Live Free or Die Hard. Trouble is, I can't confirm that this is true; rather the contrary. The IMDb FAQ for the film does not mention the song being in a trailer, and two blog posts seem to indicate a not-very-notable marketing connection at best. ([1], [2]). --Ginkgo100^talk 02:38, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

• Weak delete On the basis of I can't find anything notable about the band other than the tenuous Die Hard connection, which is falsely attributed in the article. According to the NY Times article here, the band made a "tribute" video, using pirated clips from all three previous movies. Fox decided not to sue and, instead, let them use material from "Live Free or Die Hard". The article mentions POSSIBLY that the video will appear in the future LFODH DVD, but that's it.--Ispy1981 02:54, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Not being sued is not much of a claim to notability, and the DVD connection is a crystal ball. --Ginkgo100^talk 03:03, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
    • Reply Good points. I changed my vote.--Ispy1981 03:10, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per Ispy1981. Oysterguitarist 03:22, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per lack of notability/media mentions Corpx 05:00, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
• Comment Being a new Wikipedian, I'm not exactly sure if I can vote in an AfD made for my own article, however I am searching for a youtube link to the trailer and will post it if found. GreyTwilight 05:11, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

• Youtube links dont generally establish notability. If you can find reliable sources that published articles about the band, it'll establish notability Corpx 05:13, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
• According to Wikipedia guidelines, nobody "votes" in an AfD. We just submit "recommendations". User:GreyTwilight should feel free to submit a recommendation as long as it is supported by a good justification, and for full disclosure, preferably the recommendation should also include the statement "I created this article". --Metropolitan90 07:32, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

There should be no reason why anyone should not be able to participate in these discussions. We all have to start at some stage in our time as editors and some learn fast. So, welcome! :) --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 15:50, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

• Delete Even if their video ends up on the DVD, that's a rather tenuous claim to notability. If anything, it would earn the band mention in the movie's article (in the DVD section). Precious Roy 08:25, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, because having a title song in a blockbuster film seen by who knows how many millions on TV spots is definitely notable. --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 15:50, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Agreed, except it's not the title song for the film. Also, I watched every trailer I could find (about 7 on YouTube alone) and none of them used that song. Precious Roy 16:30, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
    • Question for Le Grand Roi. Did you happen to see the NY Times article I presented? Neither the song nor the video are used in any promotional material for any of the films nor do they feature in LFODH. It was basically a tribute song to the films.--Ispy1981 20:43, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
      • Comment The TV spot in question that features the song was released recently, after the release of the movie, and therefore may not be addressed in the NYT article or IMDB. GreyTwilight 21:10, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
        • Comment If that's the case, then I would suggest delete with option to restore if IMDb or another reliable media source makes a mention of it. YouTube is not reliable enough because there is no guarantee that a given video was not fan-created. (Is "delete with option to restore" done often?) --Ginkgo100^talk 01:02, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Their one-and-only claim to notability is pretty tenuous and unsourced. Besides, even if true it wouldn't pass WP:MUSIC on that alone anyway. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 01:03, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.