Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Guyball

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No Consensus. Yanksox 19:27, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Guyball

This is a non-notable fictional game, that is mentioned in a mildly popular UK comedy show I would also like to include the following two Green Wing related pages

• Whiteleaf Public School an extremely non-notable fictional school, that when Googled, the first four hits are for Wikipedia or its mirrors, the 5th hit is for a real school with that name.
• East Hampton Hospital Trust A non-notable fictional hospital that again when Googled the first four hits are Wiki and mirrors, the 5th being the website for the Channel that screens Green Wing
• Withdraw I wish to withdraw my nominations, Cruft it may be but it is well written and is no more crufty than other articles I've since seen. --RMHED 00:03, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Your reasons for withdrawal are not valid ones. Just because there are other crufty articles on Wikipedia doesn't make it all right. I re-nominate this article if you're having a sudden change of heart. wikipediatrix 12:48, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Curft. --Chris Griswold 06:45, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep As the main setting of the show, East Hampton Hospital Trust should be kept (For another example, see Walmington-on-Sea) with the Whiteleaf Public School section also kept, or at least merged with the article on Guy Secretan. Guyball is also very similar to games such as Mornington Crescent and 43-Man Squamish and should be kept, or at least merged in the main Green Wing article. ISD 08:17, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

comment Green Wing is only 2 series old, its cultural impact can hardly be compared to Dad's Army or Mornington Crescent. Can you cite any notable cultural references mentioning Guyball, Whiteleaf Public School or East Hampton Hospital Trust? --RMHED 11:57, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

• Merge - Guyball and Whiteleaf are both fairly minor aspects of the show (I only remember Guyball being mentioned three or four times, and Whiteleaf once?) and only ever came up in relation to Guy, so should just be given sections on the Guy Secretan page. Virtually all of the content on the East Hampton Hospital Trust page seems to be in the main Green Wing article already - the only new pieces of information are the (original research?) staff numbers, a list of known hospital facilities, the fact that some office shots are filmed in a studio, and the trivia that two wards are named after the show's crew. This small amount of information can easily be merged into Green Wing. --McGeddon 08:10, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

• Comment - striking out some of my last comment; the main Green Wing article actually mentions both of these already. If we dismiss the hospital staff number as original research, then the East Hampton Hospital Trust page provides no new information apart from a trivial list of five hospital facilities. --McGeddon 11:22, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

• Merge per McGeddon and redirect. Yomangani^talk 10:27, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete all. Unnecessary fancruft. wikipediatrix 11:31, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep the Guyball article. The other two articles can be merged. Guyball is a recurring joke in the show, and the article contains a good deal of information on the game, possibly too much to just be a section in another article. And there's plenty of other fictional games [1] on Wikipedia too. Tphi 11:52, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - recurring jokes on a single show are only in especially extreme cases worth their own article. Wickethewok 19:40, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
• Merge as above - into main article of show. — RevRagnarok ^{Talk Contrib} 02:26, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Comment The main article for the show is too big already. As the original nominee withdrew, shouldn't this debate be closed? Tphi 11:44, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I re-nominate it despite the withdrawal, so keep it going. Let's not waste time going thru the whole re-nomination process all over again. wikipediatrix 12:46, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

• Keep Guyball and East Hampton Hospital Trust, merge Whiteleaf Public School into the Guy Secretan article --RMHED 23:50, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Guyball. Article is good and is quite noteable in the show. T. Moitie ^[talk] 01:41, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.