Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gunner (student)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus leaning towards deletion. Very enlightening afd I can recommend the The New Physician for an out look on student life, I view "Yeosamity Sam" and "Bon Jovi" in a completely different light after reading that. BTW after reading all the sources, the term Gunner in relation to students it would be appropriate for it to have a Wiktionary definition. The other sources are more first person accounts or incidental definitions, nothing of what I read could be considered reliable in depth coverage to sustain independent notability in the face of WP:NOT#DICT.

What wasnt covered in this discussion is the possibility of a merge to Student#Other terms, after what I read it would IMHO be the ideal option for the article content. Gnangarra 10:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

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I'm not arguing the term doesn't exist, however, the citations are a blog post and a 600-member facebook group. Surely there are other sources, or even media mentions, if it's something worth keeping. Cantras 02:03, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

• Strong Delete I'd actually go so far as to say that this article should have been speedied the moment it was created. Google searching shows no hits for this use of the term, and The sources cited are a far cry from being reliable. This seems to be little more than a neologism at best and a description of a type A personality in an academic setting at worst. --jonny-mt(t)(c) 05:01, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
• Neutral. This is far from a "speedy" candidate. This term has been in use for years. See, for example, NPR.org, Stetson Law Review Harvard Law Record, this book, The New York Observer, The New Physician, Juris Publici, and this other book. The reason I'm neutral on this is that the topic may be more suited for Wiktionary than encyclopedic treatment. --Metropolitan90 05:59, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Wow. Your Googling skills are clearly much better than mine, so I'll have to concede my comments about Google hits and neologisms above. However, I think the nominator's point is that the article doesn't currently use any such sources to establish notability. So if I could probe your position a little further, assuming that the topic is appropriate for encyclopedic content, do you think that the article as it is could be reworked to include those references? --jonny-mt(t)(c) 08:30, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
    • That's the problem. I'm not sure this topic is appropriate for encyclopedic content. So any reworking of this article to include references such as those above should be done by someone who believes in keeping the article. --Metropolitan90 05:39, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
• Weak Keep Fascinating - its a delete unless you include the references Metropolitan90 has noted here. Re-Edit, include refs, make coherent, and STUB it. Cheers T--T3Smile 12:21, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
• Weak Keep Needs more (reliable) sources, at a minimum. Mindraker 12:36, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Even with reliable sources, it's still little more than a dictdef, and would be better served at Wiktionary. Corvus cornix 20:29, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 00:00, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Transwiki to wiktionary--victor falk 09:56, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

• Keep Some of the refs found by Metropolitan90 go beyond defining the term and go on to deal with their effectys on the class and the reactions of professors and fellow students. I will copy the list of refs, with acknowledgment of Metropolitan90, to the discussion page so someone can incorporate them to improve the article. Edison 19:31, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, non-notable phrase, better suited for wiktionary. Doctorfluffy 03:25, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, possibly move to wiktionary. A dicdef at best. GregorB 19:57, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
• Keep if Edison is prepared to improved it. I think the sources are available. DGG (talk) 02:04, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.