Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gull Dong

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 16:11, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gull Dong

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Lack of information and resources and referances Ensyc 12:32, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Comment Searching for "gull dong" does yield some unique results for dog related information similar to that within the article. It's true that there doesn't seem to be much definitive information out there, but I can't tell if it's because gull dongs are some kind of unofficial mutt or if they're just rare. Leebo86 13:45, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - 0 hits at www.ourdogs.co.uk. 0 hits on Amazon.com (no; street signs don't count as a reliable, verifiable reference for rare dog breeds). 0 hits at WorldCat. 0 hits in the two academic databases I checked (Academic Search Premier, Wilson Select Plus). I realize searching Google for '+"gull dong" -wikipedia' has hits ... but ... remember that anyone can put up a website about anything. Keesiewonder talk 23:08, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Comment - Keesie has proven in other discussions, that she doesn't know the difference between a Poodle and a Bulldog, so pls give her comments very lil weight. Headphonos 01:38, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - dog breed exists and citation provided by reputable non-commercial website. Headphonos 01:05, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - I have been unable to find any information on this breed that is reliable. Normally I won't get involved in deletion issues but it seems that this really does deserve it, or at least someone should make more of an effort to improve the article rather than just leaving it with one sentence, does the breed not even have a club website?? Blufawn
  • Redirect to Gull Terr. That came up as an alternate name when I searched, and gets many more hits. --UsaSatsui 19:11, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Comment - Gull Terr Ref is not a Gull Dong Ref at least read the articles before y'ah vote..huh ?? Headphonos 21:24, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Which article? The one that says the breed is "primarily used for bear-baiting and dog fighting", or the one that says it's "used for baiting and dog fighting"? I found out later they were supposedly seperate breeds, which is why I made my next comment (or do you not bother reading all the comments before you reply?), but the first pages I found when I googled "Gull Dong" referred to them as different names for the same breed. My opinion still stands...if more than a sentence can't be written about this breed, it needs to be redirected to a more common name if there is one. --UsaSatsui 02:03, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
    • Come to think of it, both those breeds look like types of Indian Bull Terriers (which redirects to this article). Maybe redirect both of them there and someone who knows about dogs can write a real article about them? --UsaSatsui 19:15, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
  • There seems to be some name confusion, but that might be why it's so hard to find good sources for the alternatives. I guess we need to determine the best name and merger/redirect to it, but I don't know what should be consulted as an "official" source for the name. Leebo86 19:36, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Comment I think both the Gull Terr and Bull Terr articles are just as bad. Perhaps they should all be nominated for deletion. At least if you group them all together its not quite so bad. Ensyc 21:43, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I notice that the Gull Terr infobox indicates that Gull Gul Dong and Bull Terr are alternative names for the same dog. If indeed all 3 names refer to the same breed, and Gul Dong and Gull Dong are same, we certainly don't need separate articles for all of these. That is what redirects are for. (The Dachshund article has this nicely figured out - Doxie, Dackel and Teckel all redirect to Dachshund.) One article on Gul(l) Dong/Bull Terr/Gull Terr is more than adequate, whichever name is the most popular, and assuming the implied content survives this AfD. Keesiewonder talk 20:43, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Perhaps we should redirect Bull Terr & Gull Terr to the Gull Dong article and then the Afd will affect all articles? Ensyc 23:07, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
  • The Gull Dong shouldn't be confused with the smaller Pakistani Terrier breed, also known as the Gull Terr from which it developed through crosses with Indian Bullterriers and the Bully Kutta fighters.[1] Headphonos 00:04, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
  • So the Gull Dong should not be confused with the Gull Terr, even though your edit in the Gull Terr article on Wikipedia tells us that an alternative name for Gull Terr is Gul Dong. Please don't tell me we need an article on the Gul Dong, which is not the same as the Gull Dong ... ;-) --Keesiewonder talk 01:20, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.