Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Guinevere (Play)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.-Wafulz (talk) 23:27, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Guinevere (Play)

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This (Guinevere (Play)) is an article on an unpublished play that does not seem to have any demonstrable notability in third party sources - in fact, it is hard to find any assertion of significance with regard to this play altogether. It appears to have been performed once in front of a small, non-public audience. The creator of the page seems dead-set on keeping it though; he/she deletes everything I and other users have tagged it with. Cjs2111 (talk) 07:39, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

I am the creator of the page. I'm not sure on the 'significance' of the play, just as I'm not sure of the 'significance' of any play, film, book, etc. What are the criteria for judging so? I'm not trying to be confrontational. The play is an early work by a good playwright who went on to write superior works, much as Platanov or Ivanov by Anton Chekhov were early works that were later eclipsed by more popular or acclaimed pieces. Originally I wrote that the play was unpublished, but have since found that that's not true, hence I removed the 'unpublished' line. Also, performances at the Eugene O'Neill Conference are open and therefore the public would be able to attend. If these reasons are not enough to keep the article, I will understand and will no longer remove any notices that it is tagged with nor fight its deletion. Thank you. On a sidenote - these talk pages are really a great idea. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.7.250.98 (talk) 07:59, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

• This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 18:39, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
• There are many means by which this play might have been significant enough to warrant its own article. To contrast, one of the Gionfriddo plays attracted media attention and had famous actors and actresses star in it. Presumably, though perhaps for different reasons, there are quite a few third party sources dealing with the early works of Chekhov as well. What we really need is information that shows that the play is notable to those outside the O'Neill Conference and the playwright. As the below person notes, though, that doesn't mean that Gionfriddo's page can't include a short description of it. Cjs2111 (talk) 20:01, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

• Delete. While Gionfriddo is certainly a notable playwright, I can find no real discussion of this play, only mere confirmation that it exists and was produced at the O'Neill. Being produced by itself does not make a play notable. Fails WP:BK. Perhaps a line of description in the author's article. --Dhartung | Talk 19:54, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
• Delete per Dhartung. Doctorfluffy (talk) 21:08, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.