Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Guernsey Live

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Without significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, article fails WP:N. Dreadstar † 21:20, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Guernsey Live

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Advert for a forthcoming nusic festival. (Image is of a different festival.) -- RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 14:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

• Strong delete Reads like an ad. archanamiya · talk 20:50, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
• Strong delete the fact that it is upcoming itself means it is not notable. -PetraSchelm (talk) 00:31, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
• Strong keep This is the very first time such an event is happening, maybe the page requires refining but does NOT need deleting. It is not an advert as that would include the pricing of the event. -Dead6re (talk) 16:27, 4 April 2008 (GMT)
• Comment I've updated the content a bit more to include some of the past. As this is a fresh event the details are scarce but this is a big event for Guernsey. I live in Guernsey so this is part of our island and perhaps you come from bigger places but size should not be the ultimate reason. Unfortunately I'm away for the next 7 days so I can't debate any further, but if the oage is deleted, please can you say why on my talk page and what I could do to improve it for the site. -Dead6re (talk) 18:51, 4 April 2008 (GMT)
• Delete unless citations from reliable sources are added to comply with the verifiability policy. Stifle (talk) 18:26, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
• Delete. Without independent citations and evidence of coverage by an independent source, it is really nothing but crystal balling. If there is thorough independent coverage of the festival as it goes on, then there is a possibility of having a new article about the festival kept, but not before. Wikipedia is not a promotion service. B.Wind (talk) 05:20, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
• Keep per http://www.thisisguernsey.com/2008/04/09/guernsey-live-headliner-jailed/ , http://www.thisisguernsey.com/2008/04/03/four-local-groups-in-line-up-for-live/ , http://www.thisisguernsey.com/2008/02/16/were-ready-to-rock/ and more from this site, and http://www.virtual-festivals.com/guernsey_live_music_festival_2008 where the "description" section seems independent. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 23:56, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
• Strong Delete WP:SPAM, WP:CRYSTAL, WP:V, WP:N, WP:NOT, etc.... Mister Senseless™ (Speak - Contributions) 19:04, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

  WP:SPAM in the first sense could be debatable, but I believe the independent reliable sources above show that an encyclopdic article could be written. I don't believe WP:CRYSTAL applies, as the information is verifiable by those same sources. This would also take care of WP:N and V. I don't know about WP:NOT, as it's a really wide collection of things it's not. Could you be more specific? The etc. could be expanded as well. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 19:53, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I didn't see the sources you pointed out above, which does indeed remove Crystal Balling and Verifibility issues. I still think the article is written in a promotional tone aand I'm not sure about notability, I'd like to see sources from other outlets if possible. In any event, if kept, the article needs to be scrapped and rewritten so it doesn't sound like a promo flyer. Mister Senseless™ (Speak - Contributions) 19:59, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.