Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grouse Lodge

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 01:02, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grouse Lodge

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This is an advert for a recording studio. No real evidence of notability is given and the article is not in encyclopaedic form, it should go File Éireann 00:05, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete Its a badly written article and its probably an advert. scope_creep 01:31, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • I've trimmed the advertisement and added a reference. It's always a good idea to try a Google news search, just in case something is both advertisement and notable. - 152.91.9.144 01:35, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • "Keep" I'm willing to work on this one. I was just reading about this place the other day in a newspaper article. I have no connection to the subject of this article whatsoever and I can be helpful in overcoming the conflict of interest/ advertising/ POV problems. I'm in Alabama and it's in Ireland, so it's safe to say I'm far removed from the subject matter. OfficeGirl 02:03, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep for now per OfficeGirl. Newyorkbrad 03:51, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep If nothing happens to it and it is nominated again, I will probably vote otherwise. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 05:28, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep seems notable enough. Atlantis Hawk 07:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, article establishes notability, and Google confirms it (at least for Snow Patrol and Muse (band), which is good enough for me). Fram 09:53, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Just because a band recorded somewhere does not make that location notable: it's just a fact. Had one of the band members died there, or had there been a pitched battle with the police, or were the studio the only one in the world built from solid gold it would be notable. This isn't notable. Bad enough that we have pubs and schools in Wikipedia, but please let's stop the rot now. WMMartin 17:34, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Fair enough, I'll give you some more WP:CORP meeting facts. The second Google hit looking for "Grouse lodge" recording studio gives me this[1]: "Grouse Lodge Recording Studios located in Rosemount, Co Westmeath owned by Paddy and Claire Dunning were awarded joint first place in the World Young Business Achievers Awards in Sofia, Bulgaria, on November 23rd last. In addition, they received the Award for Excellence in Entrepreneurial Management." If this award (and the persons presenting it and commenting on it) isn't enough, then what about this FoxNews article which does clearly more than a passing mention[2] (accidentally, result 3 on Google). I think I'll have to change my opinion to a strong keep after this... Fram 20:20, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep for now -- We'll see what OfficeGirl does. We can always kill it later. Deletionists FTW. --Shrieking Harpy......Talk|Count 22:47, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep per above, it's possible to source and maintain this -- so why not? Daveydweeb (chat/patch) 22:52, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, bad layout and such but the article is notable enough (slightly for me to keep).--ॐ Seadog ॐ 23:46, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Fails WP:CORP as there are no sources used that are primarily about the studio. The one source used is clearly about Jackson. GRBerry 17:54, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Comment: Don't mix the article as it is with what is possible, and presented in this AfD. This is a discussion, so it is best if you first look at the comments of other people before making yp your mind. Please check the link I gave for the World Young Business Achievers Awards in Sofia, Bulgaria. This passes WP:CORP. Fram 20:24, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, don't know why I missed those. The award is one good coverage. The Fox News thing is again, primarily about Jackson. We need multiple coverage primarily about the studio to meet [[[WP:CORP]], so my opinion isn't changing.
  • Keep. Current revision of the article appears to satisfy WP:CORP guidelines. Yamaguchi先生 22:46, 14 November 2006
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.