Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Group Zero

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The result was delete -- Samir धर्म 01:22, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Group Zero

Contested Prod. High school nonsense. Original version of the article claimed the events happened in 1999, but all the named students were members of last year's varsity football team at Rancho Cotate High School [1]. When removing the Prod notice (which pointed out these kids would have been in grade school), author changed the date to claim the events happened in 2005. The adult named in the article actually googles as a convicted hacker; the rest of it is totally unverifiable from any outside source. Fan-1967 00:42, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

• Actually the storyline is valid, it occured in December 2005 after the football season had concluded. There are small articles about it in local papers, the boys involvement is obviously not as big as the article portrays it to be. They had a minor role in creating the trojan, google it, there is information about it in various forums.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Tylerb1222 (talk • contribs)

• Comment Wikipedia articles must be Verified from Reliable Sources. Forums are not reliable sources, as anyone can post anything. I am also puzzled by your stating "the boys involvement is obviously not as big as the article portrays it to be" when you wrote the article. Are you saying you lied? Fan-1967 01:07, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

• Delete unless good references are added. And would I be wrong to suspect that User:Tylerb1222 is Tyler Barr, mentioned in the article? Be aware of WP:AUTO, Tyler. Staecker 01:53, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete — as per Staecker. Also, User:Tylerb1222 attempted to blank this page. [2] Dionyseus 02:42, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Tyler has been asked not to do that again. - Richardcavell 02:44, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Interestingly, I just noticed one other difference (besides the date change) between the version I prod'ed and the one I AFD'ed (diff). The name of the adult hacker in the earlier version does show up in news reports. The later name doesn't. Fan-1967 02:49, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
    • Never mind. I found the reason for the change. The real hacker, Jerome T Heckenkamp, was arrested for crimes committed in 1999, when these kids were in fifth grade. Fan-1967 02:59, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as per above. Dennette 03:12, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as unverifiable and lacking in reliable sources. --Metropolitan90 03:41, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Fails WP:RS. Not notable, either. --Nishkid64 15:15, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as unverified. Heimstern Läufer 15:49, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:NFT. Molerat 16:56, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per all above. Man, am I sick of high school students who think they're funny. - Corporal Tunnel 17:21, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete RS, NFT etc. ⇒ SWATJester ^Ready Aim _Fire! 20:05, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Per Above Viva La Vie Boheme! 21:16, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nominator, non-notable kiddie-cruft. RFerreira 21:46, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per reasons stated above. GBYork 14:51, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.