Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gregory G. Smith

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Addhoc (talk) 01:39, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gregory G. Smith

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Biographical article written like a resume or a press release. Only possible claim to notability is the fact that he is a town manager in Pennsylvania. Mr Senseless (talk) 04:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Now that I look more closely at the author's username (Gregorygsmith), I have a feeling this is likely a blatant WP:COI/ self-promotion. Mr Senseless (talk) 04:30, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete - Fails WP:N people/politicians. LonelyBeacon (talk) 04:43, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete - Fails WP:N, WP:RS and looks like self promotion? i.e. fails WP:BIO per note 4. Sting_au Talk 05:52, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete NN person self-promoting Mayalld (talk) 11:50, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pennsylvania-related deletion discussions. -- the wub "?!" 12:23, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
  • It's not often I vote delete for political figures, but this one's pretty flagrant. Delete per WP:N. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 08:14, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete, not notable per WP:BIO. I did a Google search and it turned up a lot of Gregory G. Smiths, so I couldn't confirm anything through it. Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 00:38, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • After getting the notices, I became aware of the rules for the submissions, which I should have become familair with prior to editing, but failed to do so, sorry, please excuse my ignorance... please delete biographical information, birth date, career history, whatever else doesn't apply to the standing Wikipedia policy/procedures as the arbiter[s] sees fit.

If there are suggestions or recommendations, I'm very open to them for this or other articles, editing efforts. However, also note the following sampling of various sources referenced to notability; Pittsburgh Tribune Review, October 11, 2007, [1],Pittsburgh Post Gazette articles,[2] ,[3],[4], President of State Association, [5] ], Trib Total Media,[6], [7], [8],Forgotten Past, A History of Moon Township, authored by Dr. Robert A. Jockers, Gregory G. Smith authored the chapter of this history on Moon Township's Governmental History, Xlibris Corporation,[9],Library of Congress Control Number 2004099641,,Pa State Association of Township Supervisors, [10] ,[http://www.pghpointswest.com/allegwestmag/index.html. There are secondary sources for all any and all positions listed or awards referenced, and if it is of any use to whomever makes the final decision, I'll provide those for verification and documentation of any and all statements when time permits. Gregorygsmith (talk) 03:06, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete I believe to be truly notable one needs to have done more beyond just being good at their job and recognized primarily within their own inner circle. I decided to compare Mr. Smith to the mayor of my own city, Seattle Mayor Greg Nickels, and what struck me was Nickels' affiliations various groups, committees and political action groups and general contributions to his community and the nation. Nickels is notable because he has a multi-faceted career and assorted activities beyond simply leading a community. I don't feel Mr. Smith has achieved this level, as of yet OneHappyHusky (talk) 05:50, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete as per nom.--RedShiftPA (talk) 15:29, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • After the comments concerning biographical information, no outside affiliations with outside groups, associations and general contributions to the community were presented, however, there are substantial number of these...they include but are not limited to the following: Elected by members as Vice Chairman, Municipal Employer Insurance Trust, (MEIT)[11] - an innovative health insurance consortium specializing in the specific needs of municipalities, authorities and councils of government throughout Pennsylvania providing group insurance benefits at the lowest net cost. MEIT is member driven and operates under the direction of a diverse Board of Directors that includes eight highly respected municipal managers.The Airport Corridor Transportation Association, Board of Directors[12] ACTA works with Pittsburgh Airport area corporations , communities and public transportation entities to promote ride sharing to reduce traffic congestion, air pollution and public transit planners and providers.It was the first ever in the Pittsburgh area. Has been recognized as a leader in the promotion of sustainable development practices in communities, most recently by Sustainable Pittsburgh for several efforts unique to the region which warranted their recognition[13]. Sustainable Pittsburgh recognized Moon Township for it's innovative and unique approach to its zoning and land development ordinances which they said "balances traffic capacity, infrastructure capacity, fiscal responsibility and land use, making hard decisions, focused on a 'build out' approach to assess over all capacity." [14] Also recognized by The Allegheny Front [15] as well as [16][17] and [ http://nezen.net/suspgh/show/index.php?proj_id=80]. There are number of other recognitions for which additional research needs to be undertaken to cite the proper sources, such as recognition by the Federal Highway Administration for the innovative public/private financing for the interchanges built in the community since 1991, International City/County Management Association and other outside posts and recognitions, as well as all of the recognitions and contributions originally listed in the submission, but at this point time doesn't permit any further research on those items. If some other questions need answered, that will be attempted. At least my learning curve increased markedly as to what the editors/reviewers & general contributors think is acceptable. Whether or not this submission is acceptable, I won't submit again, unless I have plenty of time to put together a complete submission with all the documentation. That was the obvious mistake made previously, the documentation wasn't initially included with the original submission. It was mistakenly believed that the general public and Wikipedia contributors would help help build on the site, whether positive or negative information. Thanks all.Gregorygsmith (talk) 04:44, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
The fact that they haven't is one sign (though certainly not a definitive one) that the subject isn't particularly notable. There seems to be lots of evidence that you're good at your job, but honestly, when I support the deletion of an article about an individual involved in a municipal government, chances are the person's not notable by Wikipedia's standards. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 04:49, 10 January 2008 (UTC)


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