Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greenhills Christian Fellowship
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. --Akhilleus (talk) 04:46, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Greenhills Christian Fellowship
Yes, it's a big church, but it doesn't deserve its own article. The article gives no indication of its having any significance outside of its own affairs. If this were a denomination of this size, it would be otherwise, but independent churches have to be judged somewhat differently, or every single independent church would be sufficiently notable. Nyttend 04:40, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
- Delete Not notable. No independent published sources. I found no published information about them in OCLC, First Search, Academic Search Premier, EBSCO Religion and Philosophy Collection, or Thomson-Gale Infotrac (all databases). --Bejnar 05:22, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. I hope they keep doing well, but they don't seem to fall into the notability realms, per nominator. --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 07:26, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nominator.--Svetovid 15:05, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
- Delete - Don't see anything notable. /Blaxthos 16:45, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
- Keep - A church (or rather network of churches) of 10,000 sounds notable to me, particularly since it is still under 15 years old. The fact that it has not appeared in academic databases prepared in the West proves nothing. It just means that the academics have not thought fit to research it. If there is a problem, it is with the lack of references to external sources, but the solution to that should be to tag it as inadequately referneced. Peterkingiron 23:26, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
- Comment No, the problem is not that it is inadequately referenced, although that is true, the problem is that it is not notable. The distinction may be subtle. They are not notable because no one in the Philippines (or elsewhere) has seen fit to write about them, other than reprinting a few news releases. Philippine journals are indexed in the sources that I mentioned above as well as a large number of non-academic publications, including titles like Manila Times, Newsbreak, Philippine Daily Inquirer, Philippine Times, Philippines News, Philippines Post, Sun Star, Yehey, Asia Image, Telecom Asia, AsiaLaw, Business Traveller Asia Pacific Pacific Shipper, Christianity Today Anglican Journal, United Church Observer, Presbyterian Record, Catholic New Times, Conscience, Newsweek and USA Today. I pulled up over 300 articles about churches in the Philippines, but nothing on Greenhills Christian Fellowship. Greenhills Christian Fellowship is not a member of the Philippine Council of Evangelical Churches, although the Conservative Baptist Association of the Philippines is. The Conservative Baptist Association of the Philippines only mentions Greenhills Christian Fellowship by providing its address as one of the CBAP churches. I don't think that Greenhills Christian Fellowship is significantly independent. --Bejnar 17:44, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
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