Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Great comebacks (football)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.--Fuhghettaboutit 03:27, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Great comebacks (football)

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Article title is inherently POV, stating that these comebacks were "great". If it were changed to simply include all wins from the sport which overcame a deficit at some point, it would be unwieldy, unmanageable, and a gigabyte long. The few genuinely iconic comebacks can be covered under the articles for their parent team. Seraphimblade Talk to me 21:29, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep but move to a more suitable title - I can't think of one personally but that's why Wikipedia is a community project ;-). I think as long as you require a reliable source for each comeback listed in the article (for example, for Milan vs. Liverpool 2005 - [1] "Liverpool beat AC Milan 3-2 in a penalty shoot-out to win the Champions League after sensationally coming from three goals down at half-time. [...] It capped an amazing turnaround, with Liverpool looking out of contention after they were completely outclassed in the first-half."), the article could stay. ugen64 21:39, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Over here we have similar articles about American football, where a team is losing by a lot and somehow salvages a victory. However, there's more to it than simply listing what the score was and what it ended up being, like how much time was left on the clock when "your team were down 4:0"? Can the comeback be explained in a sentence or two? Second, the one nice thing about sportsfans is that some of them get published. Without some cites to a newspaper or magazine article that has a list of great comebacks (or major upsets, blowouts, etc) it's just your opinion. Maybe it seems enough to present facts (down 4-0, but we won 5-4) and let the reader infer the rest, but not all comebacks from being down 1-0 are noteworthy comebacks ... I mean, what if someone scores in the first minute, then it's tied up a few minutes later, and you go ahead to win 2-1? Type in "great comebacks" in google and see how others approach that subject. Mandsford 21:58, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
    • Yes, I agree here, but there are some very obvious candidates for "great comebacks" (for example I noticed Man Utd 5-3 Tottenham, in that match I believe Tottenham scored 3 goals in the first half and Man Utd scored 5 in the second half). In addition, comebacks in a lower level of competition (for example Conference National) would rarely be considered notable, no matter how great the comeback was. ugen64 22:03, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Delete w. note - In the event these games are particularly notable on their own, then an individual game article would be fine and relevant text could be copied (for a similar example see: Chicken Soup Game). Otherwise, delete without prejudice. Juan Miguel Fangio| ►Chat  22:25, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Strong delete – Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. This little group is far more indiscriminate, as well as non-notable and not sourced. Ksy92003(talk) 22:58, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete this is trivial information and wp is not a "trivia collection". Besides, there are way too many "comebacks" to list them all Corpx 02:54, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per Juan Miguel Fangio. Any genuinely notable outcomes can be noted in individual team/event pages. Dbromage [Talk] 03:21, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete POV + define "great"? Lugnuts 05:56, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
  • This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. ChrisTheDude 07:08, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Who decides what is a great comeback? Number 57 08:10, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete complete trivia and useless.--JForget 00:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
  • 'Delete as per Number 57, even a comprehensive list of big comebacks 3-0 or more would still be huge.King of the North East 12:19, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Very subjective. Delete per Ksy92003. --Malcolmxl5 20:38, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete As the nom observed, this is inherently POV. Oldelpaso 16:45, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.