Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Great Britain and Ireland

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Aha, I came back to it again while closing AfDs :P. Yuser31415 04:40, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Great_Britain_and_Ireland

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This is a content fork with the page British Isles--Triglyph 00:23, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep. The page briefly and usefully discusses use of the term "Great Britain and Ireland." It avoids content forking by limiting the discussion to that and contains links to the relevant articles for more substantive discussion. Newyorkbrad 01:28, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, this is not a content fork, although it seems a bit like a borderline disambiguation page. No reason to delete, and I don't even think a redirect is appropriate. --Canley 02:14, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. Could stand to have a reference or two, but I agree that this is not a fork and should probably stay as a useful "Disambiguation-plus" page. -- MarcoTolo 03:48, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Note. I previously closed this nomination as speedy keep, but it was challenged. Therefore, I have reopened. Yuser31415 06:11, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per above. I don't see the problem with this. Chairman S. Talk Contribs 07:00, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps I should have explained my reasoning more fully. There is an archipelago off the north west coast of Europe. It has perhaps twenty different labels attached to it. The most popular term, British Isles, is somewhat controversial. Perhaps for this reason, several other articles have been created that describe exactly the same thing - Great_Britain_and_Ireland and Britain_and_Ireland for example. There are also very full articles on Great Britain, Ireland, British Isles (terminology) and British Isles naming dispute. Use of the phrase Great_Britain_and_Ireland is covered in these. Looking at the policy WP:WINAD it is difficult under these circumstances to see why Great Britain_and_Ireland and Britain_and_Ireland merit separate pages from British_Isles, any more than Iberia would merit a separate page from Spain_and_Portugal or color from colour.--Triglyph 08:55, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm still not convinced. Other than keeping the article as is, there are far more appropriate options than deletion which you may not be aware of (setting up this deletion being your first and only edits from this account). The first is to redirect, but what to redirect to? United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland? Britain and Ireland? British Isles? There's no obvious answer, so a disambiguation page may be the answer as "Great Britain and Ireland" is a valid and likely search term. However, this is what the page actually is: it explains the above possible uses of the term and links to the equivalent meanings. It may need a bit of cleanup, but it looks fine to me. I'm afraid I don't agree with your original nomination or your expanded explanation as to why it should be deleted. --Canley 11:24, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep all of the above term are valid terms and have different connotations. However possible merge of Britain and Ireland with this article Khukri - 09:21, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, not a fork, term is valid. Just need a couple of references and the verifiability problem is fixed. Merge Britain and Ireland to this article. Terence Ong 恭喜发财 13:06, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Redirect Triglyph: you misunderstood what deletion is for. Issue such as you describe are more correctly dealt with my merging and redirecting NOT with deletion. Ariel. 16:16, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, but some sources would be useful. Alternatively, redirect to British Isles. --HisSpaceResearch 21:27, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.