Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grand ole party

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete, nothing presented to show that they meet WP:MUSIC at this time. --Coredesat 05:00, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Grand ole party

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Prod removed by editor. Non-notable band not meeting the criteria of WP:MUSIC WebHamster 13:52, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Keep - Good number of edits, I see no reason for the deletion of this stub. Just because it is not notable for you does not mean that it is not notable for someone. - Fosnez 14:32, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

My own preferences don't come into it, you have no idea what I personally find notable. The article simply doesn't meet the laid down criteria in WP:MUSIC. WebHamster 14:53, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

• Keep. This article appears to establish that they are about to embark on a national tour. I think that's good enough for notability under WP:MUSIC even if the standard is technically that they have already been on the tour. It makes no sense to delete now and then have notability cemented a few weeks from now when they make their first move from west coast to east coast on the tour. Erechtheus 15:18, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

They assert that they are to tour, but they don't provide any 3rd party verification to say that they are. This is an AFD so assertion isn't the criteria. I also noted that it was a technicality and had they provided independent verification I wouldn't have instigated the AFD. That is the closest they get to WP:MUSIC so really it isn't even borderline without verification. WebHamster —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 15:57, August 25, 2007 (UTC).

• Comment. This isn't the band asserting they're about to tour -- it's a music information website with a six year history asserting they're about to tour. Here is another instance of the tour information. Erechtheus 16:06, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

The nomination was based on the article. The article doesn't cite any verification. It's not my responsibility to track down what the article's editor should have done. WebHamster —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 16:11, August 25, 2007 (UTC).

• Comment. This is a discussion about whether there should be an article. It's not a critique of whether or not you should have made a nomination. I will tell you that many here do expect that you will check out whether there are easily accessible sources that justify the claims in the article, but I'm not in that camp. I don't think you were wrong to nominate the article, but I don't think it would be right to delete it given what I have uncovered. Erechtheus 16:14, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

• Strong Delete Non-notable, not even close. If they become the new Nirvana, a page can be created again. No independent references to charting, international touring, etc. MarkinBoston 16:28, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

• Comment. Becoming the new Nirvana is not even close to being the appropriate measure of what makes a band notable. Please review WP:MUSIC. Erechtheus 16:30, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletions. -- the wub "?!" 17:37, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
• Comment - if kept should be moved to Grand Ole Party (capitalised). the wub "?!" 17:39, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
• Comment - I'm not quite sure how "gone on a national tour" in WP:MUSIC is to be interpreted, but I found this source which claims that they "will be opening for" someone else's tour. Given that their debut album will be available soon, this looks a little funny. Anyway, if kept, move to correct capitalization per the wub. -- Huon 20:34, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Fails WP:Music notability criteria. Maybe bring back when national tour and proof of such has occurred (not will occur) has been established with 3rd party reliable sources. Any one can upload to Google video and have a MySpace page so those links are simply promotional and not considered reliable sources. No other proof exists within this article. ♫ Cricket02 17:55, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.