Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grampian Youth Orchestra

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete, despite merge votes. This is an article about a youth orchestra, the supposed target is a festival. I don't see compatibility between the articles except to insert a sentence 'AIYF manages GYO', and if you want to insert that sentence, well, I just gave it to you, you don't need the article. --Sam Blanning(talk) 22:56, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grampian Youth Orchestra

It's a non-notable youth group, and may qualify for db-band. Precedence set by Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Youth Orchestra of Greater Columbus. Evan Seeds (talk) 15:31, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete per my nom. Evan Seeds (talk) 23:52, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Not notable. DarthVader 00:19, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge into Aberdeen International Youth Festival. — TheKMantalk 22:44, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge per TheKMan. Kevin 11:51, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep This article should not be merged with Aberdeen International Youth Festival. Grampian Youth Orchestra is a distinct entity, seperate from, although co-ordinated by, the Aberdeen International Youth Festival. The article should not be deleted because the orchestra is an important orchestra for all young musicians in Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire and Moray, being set up by the education local authorities of these counties. It is a notable youth orchestra and important venture in music education, with celebrated conductors such as Julian Clayton being involved.
Re precedent, GYO is not a schools orchestra or club and accepts professional members provided they are under 26 years of age. There are many other articles on youth orchestras, for exmaple: Maryland Classic Youth Orchestras,American Youth Philharmonic Orchestras,Adelaide Youth Orchestra, Chicago Youth Symphony Orchestras, Queensland Youth Orchestras, Australian Youth Orchestra, Florida Symphony Youth Orchestra, Colne Valley Youth Orchestra, Somerset County Youth Orchestra, Mankato Area Youth Symphony Orchestra, Greater Boston Youth Symphony Orchestras, Hamilton Philharmonic Youth Orchestra. GYO is certainly comparable to all of the above in terms of standard and size. Talullah77
  • Comment That's bull. Even the least notable of those orchestra gets over 150 google hits. The precedent cited, The Youth Orchestra of Greater Columbus, gets 133 hits and WAS DELETED. On the other hand, Grampian Youth Orchestra gets a grand total of 3 distinct google hits, one of which is wikipedia. Also, it should be noted that Talullah is the article creator. Evan Seeds (talk) 22:39, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Reply to Comment Actually, Evan Seeds, it is not bull. Grampian Youth Orchestra is comparable to other orchestra in terms of artistic quality and musical importance. Surely the point of Wikipedia is to provide information such as this, which is of importance to at least 700,000 in Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire and Moray, Scotland and of a wider imporrance to the musical community worldwide. Talullah77
  • Comment If you believe that they are so notable, and so important, then can you please prove that GYO meets WP:MUSIC? Evan Seeds (talk) 15:32, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Grampian Youth Orchestra is notable for 2 reasons 1. Annie Lennox played flute for GYO when she was at school. 2. GYO was shut down in 1995 after the reorganisation of local authorities in scotland, much to the disgust of local people. it has now been re-established in a joint project by Aberdeen City Council, Aberdeenshire Council, Moray Council, Aberdeen City Music School, North East of Scotland Music school, and has the support of the National Youth Orchestra of Scotland under its new Regional Youth Orchestras programme. Allydross
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.