Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gorkys Hernandez

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete, the article can always be recreated when the player reaches the major. Jaranda wat's sup 02:51, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gorkys Hernandez

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This page is about a person who is merely being considered to play in the major leagues. I don't think it passes WP:N muster. The PROD was removed without comment by the article's creator. Deranged bulbasaur 02:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep I went to find the right reference to support a delete vote, but instead I found this: Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Criteria_for_notability_of_people which says to allow "Competitors who have played in a fully professional league". AAA (Pacific Coast League) Baseball is fully professional last I heard. - Richfife 02:54, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per above. He's in the Whitecaps, which would be a professional league... good enough for me. Ten Pound Hammer • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 03:00, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:BASEBALL, which says "minor league players are generally not notable". Corpx 04:37, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep As you said, "minor league players are GENERALLY not notable". As shown by the interest in this article, he is a notable minor leaguer.
    • Looks like there's a clear conflict in criteria. Time to bring in one of the adults. - Richfife 15:32, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Hernandez does fit the criteria of being in a professional, even though minor, league. I have created articles for a few minor league hockey players, and they haven't been considered for deletion. - Avalanchebad 04:54, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • I dont think you can quite compare AHL to the minor leagues. There are 50 rounds in MLB draft with 30 picks in each round, plus plenty of sandwich picks and whatnot between rounds. This means more than 1500 "new blood" is put into the minor league system, taking the place of 1500 existing players (since the number of players is set). Hence, turnover is extremely high in the minors and the reason for the lack of notability Corpx 05:03, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • As far as notability is concerned, I would have to say that a minor league baseball player at any level would probably be more notable than an AHLer. Regardless, Hernandez does fit the criteria of playing in a professional league (The GCL). - Avalanchebad 05:57, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete without prejudice as non-notable. I suggest the creator/editors move a copy to their userspace - if this chap eventually becomes notable, the article can then be recreated. EyeSereneTALK 09:37, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: Article doesn't make strong claim to notability aside from being minor-league prospect. Conflict between WP:Notability (people) and WP:Baseball in recent AfDs such as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kevin Ahrens have ended up as No Consensus. I expect these will continue until Baseball project (the area experts) discusses and delivers a better guide for evaluating players. Canuckle 18:19, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete per Corpx, wait until he plays in the MLB or other major league.--JForget 23:13, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak delete as per above, esp. considering conflicts in policies. Future tag? Bearian 14:30, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.