Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gordon Springs, Georgia

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The result of the debate was keep. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 03:33, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Gordon Springs, Georgia

• Delete: There is no such town in Georgia. There once was some property named Gordon Springs, and a spa-hotel was built upon it to take advantage of some mineral springs. However, there is no town today in Georgia by that name. See (blocked link deleted) and note the absence of 'Gordon Springs'. Note that the text in this article is virtually identical to that found on Gordon Springs, South Carolina (which is also up for VfD). I suspect the author is attempting to create more basis for his article on Evan Pryzant (which is up for VfD). The author has made some other contributions/edits that are questionable, such as the article Hard clam which was speedied for nonsense. --Durin 22:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete: unverifiable and even if verifiable, not notable. Samw 02:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Sholtar 02:57, May 27, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep as fixed; the place it now refers to does exist. --SPUI (talk) 03:04, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

• Comment:...exists as a small, unremarkable, spring. It's not a town. Should we have articles for every spring and small stream in the world? I can't see that as reasonable. Is it remarkable for something? Unusual species of fish perhaps? --Durin 05:30, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Yes, we should. --SPUI (talk) 06:02, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

• Ok. Why? We don't have articles on every primary school, and won't. What makes small creeks/springs of sufficient significance to warrant inclusion? --Durin 15:05, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

• Comment: Why did you find it necessary to create five redirects for a page that is up for VfD? I'll put those up for deletion too. --Durin 05:30, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

The place has three different names, with and without the Georgia. This is standard practice. --SPUI (talk) 06:02, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

• Examples of this standard practice other than ones you have created? Regardless, I can't see the logic in referring to small creeks as '<small creek>, <state>'. --Durin 15:05, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

• Even if it wasn't standard practice, it would be common sense. Kappa 00:34, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Keep as fixed up, real spring and community. Multiple redirects are appropriate, and would get deleted if the article was. Kappa 07:51, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, this is a historical place. There are references to the place in historical maps and documents (e.g., [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], and [6] has a 1920 photo). Although perhaps not entirely reliable as a source, this account describes the place as being built by the father of Confederate General John Brown Gordon, and one of the "most fashionable watering placed (sic) in Georgia" before the Civil War. older≠wiser 14:06, May 28, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep real places. -- BD2412 ^talk 18:05, 2005 May 31 (UTC)
• Comment: I'm still bothered by the idea of a spring being referred to in an article title as "<creek>,<state>". This seems especially problematic for small, unremarkable springs/streams/creeks as there are likely to be many replicate names if we were to use this model for article naming. It is certain this is not a town, so it is inappropriate for it to be named in the "<town>, <state>" convention. If it is a neighborhood/community (I still have my doubts) then perhaps it should follow the Willowbrook, Staten Island model? --Durin 21:19, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • It is a place that has taken its name from the nearby springs. While it may not be much to see in the present day, it is a place that is identified as a locale on period maps from the 19th century. There is a longstanding precedent for placenames to be taken from nearby geographical features, even springs and creeks. older≠wiser 01:07, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)

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