Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Goofy holler

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge into Goofy. John Reaves (talk) 09:04, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Goofy holler

Goofy holler (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Non-notable neologism for a stock sound effect Action Jackson IV 02:10, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Comment - while a tempting solution, this article is more about a certain sound effect that happens to have been used for Goofy than a facet of Goofy itself. Merging it would basically reduce it to a section in the Goofy article that states "Goofy makes the exact same holler in several occasions such as X, Y, and Z, and this sound effect has also been used in Street Fighter", information that is pedantic and relatively NN. --Action Jackson IV 02:49, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. Nomen NescioGnothi seauton 02:41, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge per Mr.Z-man -- Kevin (TALK)(MUSIC) 04:30, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete I can't think of a specific sound-effect, other than the Wilhelm scream, that deserves its own article, and this one does nothing to sway me. I don't see what we can merge, as there are no sources. The fact that the term is "thought to be named" after a post on an imdb message board doesn't fill me with confidence that any can be found.--Djrobgordon 06:51, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment that's pretty much what aroused my original suspicions. --Action Jackson IV 08:10, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge to Goofy, and dig through all this to find some sources (from the first page it looks like there's at least a few) --Michael Billington (talk • contribs) 12:34, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
    • KEEP IT! What if Disney (or another studio) makes a movie with the Goofy Holler? --Ryanasaurus0077 14:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
      • Comment The Google search you linked proves that the sound effect exists, and that a few enthusiasts have cataloged its use on their personal web sites. Besides the obvious verfiability issues, it seems like trivia, akin to having articles called List of basketball players who wear Adidas shoes or List of baseball players who use maple bats.--Djrobgordon 17:01, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. The article is in need of cleanup, yes, but I consider the basis valid. This appears to be an ubiquitous sound effect, similarily to the Wilhelm scream, Castle thunder and Tarzan yell, smaller in scope but very much extant. As for merging, this has less and less to do with Goofy and functions better as a separate article. Further, this isn't an article about a neologism (as opposed to jumping the shark and wardrobe malfunction): it's about the stock sound effect. --Kizor 01:34, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment. There are plenty of sound effects which have been used in multiple situations. What makes this particular one notable? Is there any backstory whatsoever? I don't see that the article can be fixed. --Action Jackson IV 07:10, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Its repeated long-term use by a massive animation and movie studio, plus its extreme recognizability (for instance, several million people would recognize it among Finland's five million alone - though Finns are a bit weird.) It is the cartoon equivalent to the Wilhelm scream, definitely notable, and it's been in use for over five decades, definitely not a neologism. --Kizor 20:46, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge As above. - Denny 20:44, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Comment I see Kizor's point, but I'd feel more comfortable keeping it if there were a reliable source asserting the ubiquity of the effect, and preferably confirming that it was used in at least some of the listed movies.--Djrobgordon 23:22, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.