Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Good Hair Day
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was AFD withdrawn by nom thanks to work of Haemo. Whitstable (talk) 22:04, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Good Hair Day
Speedy delete refused, reads like advertising, lack of proof of notability Duke of Whitstable (talk) 14:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Delete- I did Google news searches, and could come up with almost nothing that establishes notability. While searches do prove the product exists, they do establish its notability. It's a hair straightener, right? One of hundreds made. Nothing in this article demonstrates why this is unique among its class. Jeffpw (talk) 14:25, 25 November 2007 (UTC)- Delete per my prior speedy nomination of the first revision of the article + the nom. Consider moving it into user space to let the creator work on it from there. Main space is not a sand box. EconomicsGuy (talk) 14:42, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
No no no don't delete it... its better now!
and OH MY GEE! how can you say its like all the other hair straighteners?! Its like the most famous one in the UK ever! and anyway you have all the other hair straightener brands on here as it is... Iamandrewrice (talk) 14:49, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
well this can be ended now, as we know for definite that the information is going to be kept in one form or another... rite? Iamandrewrice (talk) 15:29, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
- Comment No, that is currently a suggestion - that the article is merged into a new article about the Jemella Group. The notability of the Jemella Group seems to be verifiable, the notability of Good Hair Day still remains to be demonstrated Duke of Whitstable (talk) 15:35, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
OMG I KNOW HOW I CAN PROVE ITS NOTABILITY! Iamandrewrice (talk) 15:57, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
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- comment I have seen the ads for ghd and it is only referred to by the initials there I think- so I hadn't heard of the 'good hair day' products, but I do know of ghd, if that helps people's search terms. Look here they simply refer to it as 'ghd' [1].Merkinsmum (talk) 16:58, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
You've missed the point... not only have you also got a page for all the other hair straighteners anyway... (which counteracts your arguement saying that just because it is just another hair straightener, we should delete it), but it is a very very famous hair iron brand. MORE famous than the others! And yes it is usually reffered to as GHD by the way... Iamandrewrice (talk) 18:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
- Just because WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS doesn't mean this should Duke of Whitstable (talk) 18:49, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
This arguement is so unfair! how am i meant to prove this to people who are so stubborn to listen because they have not heard of them. If there is anyone else who has heard of the product and understands just how embedded into english lifestyle they are, then please join in! Iamandrewrice (talk) 18:44, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Comment I've been working with the creator of this article - She's very new, and doesn't really understand most of the policies on wikipedia, so can people elaborate their arguments so she can follow the conversation better? She doesn't quite understand notability very well, so rather than just say "non-notable", please elaborate on what makes it not notable. I confess I'd never heard of the subject before now, so I'm not a good one to judge notability, particularly as I don't live in the UK so I don't know how "embedded into english lifestyle" the brand is. Kuronue | Talk 18:57, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
- Comment As a show of good faith I've made the Article Rescue Squadron aware of this article. EconomicsGuy (talk) 19:27, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks guys Iamandrewrice (talk) 19:30, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
- Keep — this is a pretty famous brand of hair straighteners in the UK. For instance, the The Manchester Evening News quotes the brand as being "iconic" — for instance, they're so iconic that the Irish Independent quotes the brand name as a verb for "straightened hair" (like how Chesterfield is used in Canada and the UK). You can find lots of other examples from reliable sources. The company won the The North Region Consumer Products Entrepreneur of the Year in 2005 for their product, and ended up sponsoring a Reality TV show called The Salon. There's also press coverage of a recall of a batch of faulty irons. I think this is a sufficiently notable company/brand. --Haemo (talk) 20:37, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Per Haemo's research. • Lawrence Cohen 21:02, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
- Comment — The Yorkshire Post calls the product "one of the most successful in history". --Haemo (talk) 21:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
hey... thanks for the research. I tried putting some stuff like that in originally, but I couldn't find any reliable sources to back it up. Do you think you could incorporate your sitations into the article? Iamandrewrice (talk) 21:18, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
- Google News, mostly; I've re-written article to reflect the news sources, so hopefully people will change their opinions. --Haemo (talk) 21:43, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Keep - Thanks to Haemo's rewrite of the article. Notability is now established. Jeffpw (talk) 21:57, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
