Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Good Girl Gone Bad Tour

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Good Girl Gone Bad. There was a clear view that the main material should be retained in some form with merge being the consensus position, I an going to merge the lead paras, Recordings, and infobox material but not the Setlist or Tour Dates. However, the history will be intact so it is a matter of post-AfD talk page discussion whether more or less should be merged. TerriersFan (talk) 21:55, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good Girl Gone Bad Tour

Why should this particular tour have an article? All musicians tour in support of their albums, why should we let Wikipedia be an ad service for Rihanna? Since the bulk of the tour has not even happened yet, isn't it reporting on the future in a weird way? Heavy Breather (talk) 04:33, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Keep No further reasons why delete. Other artist like Beyonce had tour pages in Wikipedia months before the onset of the tour, see this. Also, its a matter how editors write the article. If it looks like an advertising, then request for clean-up. Thank you. --βritandβeyonce ^{(talk•contribs)}04:52, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

But I claim it is not-notable, to use the term I see here in this forum. How does saying the strange phrase "No further reasons why delete." address this claim? Heavy Breather (talk) 05:08, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

• Comment Like non-notable tour. We usually nominate articles for deletion having no assertion (or could not be asserted as notable) articles. But you said already. This tour is notable, deletion is not the extremist solution, just have to find sources to support. --βritandβeyonce ^{(talk•contribs)}00:50, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
• Keep: Info about an international concert tour? Definite keep, and it is definitely notable. Needs more references (and I tagged it). - Rjd0060 (talk) 05:23, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
• Keep major tour by a notable artist is likely to generate gobs of press in reliable sources, and by that reasoning is notable. --Jayron32|talk|contribs 06:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)*Delete The press is about the musician, not the tour. Notability is not inherited. The article as it stands is a list of concert dates and locations, and has no information that is encyclopedic. Also, where are these sources? AnteaterZot (talk) 07:47, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete and merge into the album or artist page. -RiverHockey (talk) 21:00, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Tour has been covered in the press, and ample reliable and verifiable sources support notability for the tour. The level of details is appropriate for a major tour and would overwhlem the parent article if merged. Alansohn (talk) 00:30, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Right now we only have your word for it, not one source showing notability is on the page. AnteaterZot (talk) 12:59, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Well, the page has been there for months and deletion is not the solution. --βritandβeyonce ^{(talk•contribs)} 13:04, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
    • Articles where sources clearly exist, even if not cited in the current version, do not require deletion. If sources clearly exist, but the article is not currently citing them, its a clean-up issue and not a deletion issue. For example, a google search turns up lots of stuff. Its mostly blogs and the like, but there are also reliable sources interlaced in there, such as [1] and [2] and [3] and [4]. The article does not need to be correctly written or even cited to be kept for notability reasons. It only needs to be demonstrated that the subject of the article meets the requirements or WP:N and in this case WP:MUSIC. Sources exist, they are reliable, it is notable.--Jayron32|talk|contribs 22:06, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
      • Those are some pretty lamé sources. 1 is about her photos, not the tour. 2 is a Wikipedia mirror and isn't "about" the tour. 3 is from Azerbijian and mentions the tour, and 4 is from celebrity-gossip.net and again is not about the tour, it's about an award she received. AnteaterZot (talk) 23:34, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
        • Fine you got me. I am worthless and stupid. --Jayron32|talk|contribs 06:22, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
          • Don't take it that way, Rihanna's tour is what fails notability, not your efforts to save an article on Wikipedia. AnteaterZot 18:50, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
• Comment: Guys, we don't have to quarrel on this. Jayron got the point about sourcing and Ant too. Deletion is not the ultimate decision on this article: its about sourcing.

--βritandβeyonce ^{(talk•contribs)} 11:52, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

• Delete, or merge to Good Girl Gone Bad. Looking through the Google News hits, there are lots for "Good Girl Gone Bad" but very few that even mention the tour. When the tour is mentioned, very little is said about it: [5] is pretty typical, which limits it coverage to which continents she has performed on. Either we should just delete this outright, or at best we should make more mention of it at Good Girl Gone Bad, since this is a tour done to promote the album. Mangojuice^talk 17:28, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
• Merge to Rihanna or Good Girl Gone Bad, I highly doubt that Wikipedia is like Pollstar thus listing tour dates of artists or bands. Much better to summarize it in either one of the above mentionned two articles.JForget 23:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
• Merge struck out prior vote. Upon further consideration, a merge seems most appropriate. --Jayron32|talk|contribs 05:53, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.