Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gomes Elementary School

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Please defer merge related discussion to article talk. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 02:22, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gomes Elementary School

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Non-notable elementary school AlphaShroom 06:37, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete no assertion of notability. Resolute 06:54, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
    • Keep after rewrite. Resolute 07:34, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Schools are not inherently notable - and this one makes no assertion of notability. Chairman S. Talk Contribs 07:15, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep or merge There is no separate guideline regarding school notability with any real consensus. WP:N is the applicable guideline for this article, which says, "One common recommendation across all notability guidelines is not to nominate articles on such subjects for deletion but to rename, refactor, or merge them into articles with broader scopes, or into the articles that discuss the main subject..." Furthermore, although schools may not be "inherently notable" by your personal defintion (if you mean "extraordinary," "celbrated," or "world-famous"), they are almost always notable per WP:N. Every public school in the U.S. is inevitably the subject of multiple, non-trivial, publications, including state reports on their demographics and performance and press reports on their development, construction, bond elections, school board elections, and controversies over curriculum, busing, closure, redistricting, and endless other issues of significant interest to their locality, regions and state. I suggest that if the result here is other than "Keep," that the verifiable information be merged into Fremont Unified School District rather than being deleted and that this article be turned into a redirect. I suspect that a separate article will be created again, eventually a "good article," since there is plenty of documentation about all of the Fremont schools that I've looked at.--Hjal 19:10, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
  • delete, and will someone please look at the articles at Category:Elementary schools in Florida? It's one thing to do high schools if they are at least factual, yet another for elementary and so on... Chris 19:45, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep I have fixed up this article and mentioned details about its notability. Hopefully this will settle the issue. Sukh17 Talk | Contribs 20:41, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
    • I just wanted to share a part of the wikipedia policy that can be found here:
All text created in the Wikipedia main namespace is subject to several important rules, including three cardinal content policies (Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, Wikipedia:Verifiability, and Wikipedia:No original research) and the copyright policy (Wikipedia:Copyrights). Together, these policies govern the admissibility of text in the main body of the encyclopedia, and only text conforming to all four policies is allowed in the main namespace.
I believe the article conforms to all four of these premises, and thus, should be rightfully included. Additionally, I want to share one more excerpt from this article:
There is no practical limit to the number of topics we can cover, or the total amount of content, other than verifiability and the other points presented on this page.
Hopefully you take this into consideration before making a decision upon this article. --Thank You. Sukh17 Talk | Contribs 06:19, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Schools are not inherently notable. Soltak | Talk 22:48, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
  • I agree, but this does not mean that they are inherently non-notable. -- Black Falcon 02:56, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Notability has now been asserted, so I'm happy to change my vote. Chairman S. Talk Contribs 23:25, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Notability asserted in the current version thanks to User:Sukh17. -- Black Falcon 02:56, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. I do not find any compelling assertion of notability. So far the article simply says that its a pretty good school. That's good, but it certainly isn't notable. Sorry. WMMartin 20:01, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep now that notability has been asserted. In cases where notability is not clearly established we should be redirecting these elementary school pages to a parent article rather than rehashing this debate five times a day. (jarbarf) 17:28, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. I'm still not impressed by its achievements compared to other elementary schools. A wise man once said, "Beware of getting caught up in the rat race, because even if you win, you're still a rat." YechielMan 22:59, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete according to the article on the program, probably 4000 or more schools nationwide have received the "Blue Ribbon Award" - I don't find that convincing by itself. --Brianyoumans 23:26, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
    • That is poor logic, by that rationale we should delete all Emmy award winners, because hundreds or thousands of people probably have received them. (jarbarf) 23:43, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
      • The accomplishments of an Emmy Award winner are often seen by millions of people. There are also regional Emmy Awards, and those are less notable because the works have had less distribution. While an excellent school is certainly a good thing, it affects only its students, unless it is used as a model by others.--Brianyoumans 01:36, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment. I just wanted to share one more piece of information that I have found and added to the school's page. Gomes Elementary is tied for 5th in the state in terms of performance with a recently released API Growth score of 989. This is not the first time that Gomes has been included within the top 50 or even top 10 of all schools. I am still compiling research, and I will finalize this edit later on, but meanwhile you can check out the reference that I have provided for that fact. Hopefully this will clarify the status of this article, and consensus can be reached on its apparent and evidenced notability. Sukh17 Talk | Contribs 3:26, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, the notability is established (with the rewrite). --Vsion 08:27, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete as not notable — MrDolomite • Talk 18:47, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.