Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Goat tongue

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. DS (talk) 06:06, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Goat tongue

The sole reference in this article has been questioned. A google search fails to find any historical acounts of this supposed form of torture. If it is practised by fetishists or game show hosts today, it is very non-notable- googling for the term reveals mainly a culinary term and links to pictures of a goat's tongue. Lurker (said ยท done) 13:21, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Speedy Delete - hoax. Springnuts (talk) 14:25, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete - Npn-Notable. Valley2city 16:09, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Very weak keep. I was going to say delete, but it appears not to be a hoax. This looks like a reliable source to confirm its existence, and if the book in question can be checked to verify that citation is correct, then that makes this notable - has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial reliable published sources. I admit that I was drawn to participation in this AfD in the hope of finding another addition to WP:DAFT, but going on the Google hits it sounds like people think it's an urban legend, but actually seemed to have taken place in real life throughout the course of history.--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 17:46, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Reality check - you would die of old age before the wretched goat got through the thick calluses on your mediaeval feet! OK some research: This site [[1]] is the home of the torture exhibition (the link to the English version may not work in Firefox), however the only mention of goat I found is to goatskin trousers (in this document [[2]]. The BMJ article is a report on an exhibition of torture instruments - this cannot have included "goat tongue" as no instrument was involved - it is just ghastly things with spikes and stuff. None of the other references to the travelling exhibition mention this improbable torture. The book given as a reference is incorrectly titled - it is actually "In Search of Dracula: A True History of Dracula and Vampire Legends". Astonishingly it is available at my local university library, and I suppose I could have a look - but read what is said - Dracula skinned the feet first then dripped salt water on them - goat involvement nil!! Sorry, but all my (goat's) b******s detectors are flashing red. Springnuts (talk) 22:58, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
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