Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Glomp (second nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. Flowerparty■ 04:13, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Glomp

Delete. Firstly, this is a dictionary entry, and Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Secondly, this entry is fairly hopelessly poorly-written ("The word comes from the sound (though it’s not really a sound) [...]"). Belongs on Urban Dictionary -- only transiently notable. Also note prior nomination, inconclusive with 12 delete and 7 keep. Tgies 23:06, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

• Weak Delete Mostly concur with Tgies, a notable enough term for a dictionary but not quite warranting an encyclopedia entry, especially not one of this lack of quality. While a somewhat-known social phenomenon on the Internet, I just don't think it's enough to warrant an article at this point in time. Also reeks of original research in, quite obviously, the form of personal experiences on the Internet, and doesn't seem to be highly verifiable, although it is probably largely accurate for the most part. G-Flex 23:21, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and cleanup. I'll be the first to admit that the article is in bad need of a rewrite, but it does explain social customs within the Otakusphere. Or should we get rid of Handshake, Physical intimacy, Greeting, et al? I'll get to work on cleanp.--み使い Mitsukai 23:25, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
  • The existence of the Physical intimacy article already "covers" the entire area this article is in. This article only refers to a very specific term used by a niche group of people for a wholly non-notable form of physical contact (this behavior does not only exist within the "Otakusphere"). If anything, this article should be merged into one of the articles on anime fan culture -- if this VfD fails, I'm going to go ahead and start a merge discussion. Tgies 23:30, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Did an extensive edit to remove a lot of the OR, possibly all of it.Successive edits by myself and others have addressed the OR problem, enough so that the OR tag has now been removed.--み使い Mitsukai 00:51, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Good work; kudos (though I still stand by my reasons as explained previously). Tgies 07:32, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Keep. It needs a lot of clean up, but we do have Handshake etc.. Gerard Foley 23:33, 8 March 2006 (UTC) Changed vote, see below...
  • This is almost a valid point, except that shaking hands is a bit more of a sweeping psychosocial concept than glomping, so there's a bit of a problem of scale in that comparison. Tgies 23:37, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, notable psychosocial concept, although less so that handshaking. Luckily wikipedia is not paper, so the existence of one article doesn't require the deletion of another. Kappa 00:14, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
• Weakest possible keep- I detect the pungent aroma of fancruft, original research and dicdeffiness, but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt as it seems to be a fairly notable phenomenon. Reyk 03:15, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
• I'm going to lean towards Keep on this one, although I can provide no evidence other than my perosnal experiences on anime-based forums, reading fanfiction, and personally knowing people wo would classify as otaku (in other words, original research) -- Saberwyn 10:49, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, I came here specifically to find the meaning of this word. This means Wikipedia has done its job.199.43.32.85 20:14, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
  • But that's not Wikipedia's job. That's what Wiktionary is for. 24.255.10.132 22:49, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, Rename and Expand. Rename to something like Otaku culture and expand to include other examples of the same. I think it would be more effective as an expanded article with a somewhat wider focus. --日本穣 00:45, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Yeah, this is probably a better idea than full-blown deletion. Tgies 06:41, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
• Transwiki I don't see anything here that warrants an article. kotepho 10:46, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, Rename and Expand. I like 日本穣's idea better. Gerard Foley 12:25, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
• (Keep or Merge). It's already been entered in the wiktionary. I also came to this article through google to see what "glomp" meant. This article is about a documented social behavior of a subculture. Is the purpose of wiktionary to explain social nuances and behaviors? I think it's usage has spread beyond the anime/manga crowd, though. It should be kept until it can be cleaned up and merged into an article where it would make a nice sub-topic. --Kunzite 22:19, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Agreed. It goes beyond a simple dictionary entry, but it is probably better suited as a subtopic rather than a standalone entry. Keep for now, merge if a suitable umbrella topic is found or created. tylerwillis 23:34, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.