Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Global Sports Financial Exchange

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Yanksox 00:07, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Global Sports Financial Exchange

Appears to be spam. Another user engaged in an edit war labelling this as a scam. The other user in the edit war appears to have a commercial interest in the subject of this article. Also including allsportsmarket.com in this AfD. theProject 23:00, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Please do not delete this article. My name is Carlos Duran and I am the marketing director for the GSFE. This article was created by a member of our exchange. I do not know how to directly contact you, but if you can contact me at carlosd@allsportsmarket.com and provide instructions I will supply academic articles on the GSFE from doctorate members of the UCLA economics department along with documentation from US Lobbying and legal firms as to the function and purpose of the GSFE.

    I can also provide various media reports on the GSFE/ASM platform including one from the NYSE floor in Wall Street, this report was aired on Channel 11 WPIX in NY,NY.

    I am asking that you provide a way that I can supply this documentation for your review. It seems that the person(s) who have been accusing us of fraudulent activities and erasing the entry to put up a libelous script are set with malignant intent. It is our belief that this person(s) were found to be violating exchange trade policy and are now resorting to a vengful response.

    Please give us a fair chance to show Wikipedia what the GSFE is. My email is Carlosd@allsportsmarket.com

    Thank you for your time and assistance.

    Carlos Duran —Preceding unsigned comment added by ASMMarketing (talk • contribs) 2006-08-09 23:11:41

  • Delete both as a company failing WP:CORP and WP:WEB. Searching through the net all of the articles I can find are clearly written by the company. The exchange appears to be simply a sports gambling site disguised as derivitives trading. - Peripitus (Talk) 01:54, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Please take a moment to read these:

http://www.al.com/business/mobileregister/kturner.ssf?/base/business/114276370150830.xml&coll=3

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Columnists/Lankhof/2006/03/08/1478175-sun.html --ASMMarketing 13:51, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete Carlos, thank you for your honesty about being a marketer, but Wikipedia is not an advertising service. --Xrblsnggt 02:28, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete unless evidence of meeting WP:CORP and/or WP:WEB is provided. --Kinu t/c 05:20, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete The "documentation from an UCLA team" is also the product created by an ASM user. There is no such thing as an official GSFE as of yet. --waiwiki80 08:32, 10 August 2006 (UTC) -
The above user has 11 edits in total, seven to the article currently under consideration and two to this AfD. theProject 18:20, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete This seems to be a marketing attempt. If you check this link [1], where Capo de tutti Capo = Carlos Duran, you'll see that ASM users were even promised stocks if they go to Wikipedia and create an entry on ASM. --wikipuuh111 01:30, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
The above user has 3 edits in total, two to the article currently under consideration and one to this AfD. theProject 18:20, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
  • It is our honest belief that user Waiwiki80 and user Wikipuuh111 are a boyfriend/girlfriend team we found to be commiting fraudulent activities within our exchange and are now attempting to hurt us via libelous actions. --ASMMarketing 13:42, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

That is funny. I wonder what my real boyfriend would say to that. Now, with regard to my "agenda" or my "libelous" comments (I can only speak for myself), everyone is able to read what I posted in the article disputed here. In contrast to you, I included a few external references. I have many more, and I can also scan offline evidence and post it for everyone to see if that's what you want. The only "agenda" that could be attributed to me is the decision that I am not going to tolerate any longer how you scam people again and again (you know as much as I do that ASM / GSFE is not your first fraudulent business). For plenty of years, I have been enjoying Wikipedia as a user and felt too much respect for the work of others to even try to write my own articles on whatever subject. I know that there are tons of talented Wikipedia users out there who can do much better than I could. But now that you openly decided to abuse Wikipedia for one of your (in-)famous marketing campaigns, I had to step in and so had others. I did not come here first and post "libelous" stuff. YOUR team started the whole thing without checking first what Wikipedia is all about. I will be totally fine if the ultimate decision will be to remove everything. Stuff like that simply DOES NOT belong on Wikipedia (some of the other users here please correct me if I am wrong. As I said, I'm more a reader here, not a writer). waiwiki80 21:38, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

My name is Chris P. Rabalais and I am the President of AllSportsMarket.com. Direct your questions or concerns about this matter to me at ChrisR@AllSportsMarket.com. If the operators of Wikipedia are not interested in the true nature of our business and will sustain the efforts of malicious parties who have other agendas, simply remove this definition and prevent further definitions from being posted by anyone. These are the affected terms: G.S.F.E., Global Sports Financial Exchange, AllSportsMarket and AllSportsMarket.com.

Sincerely, Chris P. Rabalais President/C.E.O. AllSportsMarket.com Global Sports Financial Exchange, Inc.

  • Comment: Regardless of whether or not the article passes WP:CORP and/or WP:WEB, and regardless of whether the two latest recommendations of deletion are indeed "out to get you", as is claimed, as a general rule, articles should not be written by people associated with the article's subject. Since it very much appears that users on your site were offered incentives for creating and contributing to this article, I strongly doubt whether this article can remain neutral should it survive AfD. theProject 18:20, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Spamvertisement, pure & simple. -- Slowmover 19:31, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: It is true we offered an incentive to any trader who provided an accurate entry into Wikipedia. At the time I was not familiar with all the Wikipedia requirements that I have now become familiar with. This was not done as a marketing stunt; it was done because I am not technically inclined and we all love Wikipedia so I thought it only fair to offer something of appreciation for someone who took the time to create the entry. I can guarantee that ASM/GSFE will work with Wikipedia to provide a neutral and accurate article and keep it that way. I would like to point out that because of the growing trader base on our exchange it is difficult to say that no one associated with our exchange will contribute. Both GSFE and Wikipedia are part of a global community. I also think this unfair because, as an example, I would think that patrons of McDonalds contribute to the McDonalds entry as I am sure those who fly on planes contribute to the entries regarding Boeing. However if we can not reach a harmonious agreement as to the GSFE/ASM entry we simply ask that no entry be allowed in regard to our exchange, most specifically those that are libelous and unsubstantiated. I would also offer to put any Wikipedia administrator in contact with both our US Government Affairs contact and our legal firm in Virginia.
  • Comment: I would like to present the following media archive with two separate T.V. news stories covering ASM/GSFE. Please let me know if these meet the requirements of WP:Corp. Thank you. Here is the link and password NO DOWNLOAD is required, you will need to scroll down to watch the second story:

http://www.criticalmention.com/vg/allsportsmarket.com/ The Username is: allsportsmarket.com The password is: allsportsmarket.com0895

And in the hope of further shedding light on what the GSFE is I offer the below link to a paper written by Dr. Alper Ozgit (PhD UCLA Economics). Here Dr. Alper writes on what is ASM/GSFE; along with its purpose and place among financial markets and its social and economic functions.

http://www.SportsTradingSecrets.com/AlperOzgit.pdf

Thank you again for your time and patience.--ASMMarketing 18:26, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I provided an extensive interview concerning the details of our business on WCCO radio August 8, 2006 at about 10:40pm CST. The first roughly 35 minutes can be found at this link: http://www.sportstradingsecrets.com/Chris_8-9-06.mp3 Chris P. Rabalais - President/C.E.O.

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