Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/GlavUpDK

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. Reliable sources found and no consensus to delete JodyB _{yak, yak, yak} 01:27, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GlavUpDK

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There are no independent sources that make this organization pass WP:ORG. Expert review request did not turn up any sources or possible merge targets. -- Sent here as part of the Notability wikiproject. --B. Wolterding 12:25, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Neranei ^T/C 13:27, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete While its possible that as its a russian entry a noteability search would be low, i'm more concerned that the article doesn't make much sense. Its provides adiministrative to the 'DIplomatic Corps' (note mispelling). It seems to be part of a whole series of articles that are hoaxes in my opinion. It seems that not only is Ivan Ivanovich Sergeyev GlavUpDK's director general but hes also a founding father of russian golf...infact, amazingly, it seems GlavUpDK (a corporation??) own there own golf club in greater moscow... an 18 hole golf club... in greater moscow, a region perpetually covered with snow? Alexander S. Zinoviev, the first director of GlavUpDK was amazingly also part of this. It all just seems to be a shambles to me. I look forward to seeing the opinion of other editors on this. WikipedianProlific^(Talk) 15:28, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete if reliable sources are not to be found. --Dhartung | Talk 18:43, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Comment. I have found an article in the St Petersburg Times[1], which corroborates some of the content of the article. --Malcolmxl5 23:30, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Comment. And an article in The Moscow Times[2] about GlavUpDK (which stands for 'Glavnoye Upravleniye po Obsluzhivaniyu Diplomaticheskogo Korpusa') --Malcolmxl5 23:37, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

• Keep but merge four related articles GlavUpDK, Moscow Country Club Resort, Alexander S. Zinoviev and Ivan Ivanovich Sergeyev. GlavUpDK is an Government agency of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, which would seem to be notable. There are at least two references, there may be more. Merge the four articles and build it up. BTW Greater Moscow isn't perpetually under snow. --Malcolmxl5 01:09, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Addendum The Moscow Country Club hosts an event on the PGA European Tour in August and is apparently ranked in the 'Top 100 Courses in the World'. --Malcolmxl5 01:18, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

• I'm sorry, I still don't understand the matter. Is GlavUpDK a government agency or a golf club? --B. Wolterding 07:48, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

• A government agency. It created and owns the golf and country club hence the two articles could probably be merged (along with those of the individuals involved). Sorry for the confusion. --Malcolmxl5 08:31, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

• OK, I think I got the point now. So what you want to write is a more detailed article about the golf club, or something similar. That's fine for me. For the GlavUpDK article, I must say that the current article doesn't have much to do with what GlavUpDK actually is, judging by the sources, and is rather confusing. (GlavUpDK seems to be more like a government-owned real estate company, that's currently not even mentioned.) Therefore, I would still say: Delete or userfy for the moment, without prejudice to recreation at any time as a complete rewrite, based on multiple independent sources. (One source with in-depth coverage is granted from the Moscow Times article above). --B. Wolterding 17:48, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.