Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Giorgio Mammoliti

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The result of the debate was keep. —Korath (Talk) 17:00, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Giorgio Mammoliti

Vanity? Resume-cruft? Is it possible to merge these 430+ words into a parent article? Is anything here worthy of merging or should it be outright deleted? Obligatory google search turns up 157 unique matches. [1] --GRider\^talk 22:15, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• Keep - Michael Thompson and Doug Holyday were kept and there is no reason why this Toronto councillor should not also be kept. - SimonP 22:26, Mar 7, 2005 (UTC)
  • Also, as the article states, until 2002 he went by the name "George Mammoliti", which gets far more Google hits. - SimonP 23:03, Mar 7, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. —Mar·ka·ci:2005-03-7 23:11 Z
• Keep. Even if Toronto city councillors don't automatically count as notable, Mammoliti unquestionably is. His opposition to same-sex benefits in 1994 was major news in the province, as was his subsequent switch to municipal politics, his crossover from the NDP to the Liberals, etc. CJCurrie 23:14, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep --Spinboy 02:35, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Wikipedia is not paper. Toronto city councillors are notable enough, especially Mammoliti. With the Toronto city council being as critical of former police chief Julian Fantino, Mammoliti's support makes him even more notable. --Deathphoenix 06:29, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, reads like vanity. Megan1967 07:10, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Per consensus at Wikipedia:Deletion policy/Local politicians, merge local politicians unless they have done something exceptional beyond being elected. Since this guy does fit in the latter category, keep. Radiant! 09:43, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. The article on him establishes notability rather than just that he is a Toronto city councillor with no further info on how he fits into the scheme of things. Capitalistroadster 10:14, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. This is not a stub. Kevintoronto 14:44, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep; whether Toronto city councillors are notable or not, Mammoliti was a Member of Provincial Parliament from 1990 to 1995, and it's already been established that members of provincial or state legislatures are always notable enough for Wikipedia. Bearcat 16:13, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Where has that been established? -R. fiend 19:44, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
    • Wikipedia:Criteria for inclusion of biographies. "Political figures holding statewide or nationwide elected office." Bearcat 23:41, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
      • Thank you Bearcat for your comments. Please note that this figure is neither a statewide nor nationwide elected official so that criteria is not applicable. Do you suggest we update Wikipedia:Criteria for inclusion of biographies to be less U.S.-centric? --GRider\^talk 23:07, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
        • I would have to suggest that, yes. In Canada, there's technically no such thing as a provincewide or nationwide elected office per se; we only vote for our local candidate and the premiership or prime ministership automatically goes to the leader of whichever party won the most local candidate races. I remain quite certain that there's an established precedent for keeping people who've been elected to provincial/state/national legislatures. Bearcat 03:19, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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