Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Giardino Botanico Trebbo Trebbi

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No Consensus defaulting to Keep, Disagreement over whether it meets the notability guideline. Davewild (talk) 20:00, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Giardino Botanico Trebbo Trebbi

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Non notable botanical garden. Mister Senseless™ (Speak - Contributions) 18:13, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

As creator of the article, here are my views. The most direct guidelines appear to be Wikipedia:Notability, which in a nutshell states that "a topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Since I am not Italian, it is difficult for me to perform any useful form of research on this topic other than web searches. This article is indeed referenced by online web pages, but everything that I have found to date is a tourism page, not (for example) a scholarly paper. In short, it is difficult for me to judge whether this a well-known botanical garden in Lombardy, or not. On the whole, therefore, I suggest keeping it, but flagging it with the 'notability' tag as recommended in the Wikipedia:Notability guidelines. It may become more apparent as additional editors can augment the article. Daderot (talk) 18:41, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Very weak keep, mostly directory-type listings but there seem to be some sources in Italian, especially using just "Trebbo Trebbi" as a search term, who seems to have been a naturalist (but possibly best known because of the garden; he has one book profile on Google Books). --Dhartung | Talk 21:34, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete notability not demonstrated in the article. Dreamspy (talk) 23:17, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
  • delete Trebbo Trebbi has written a book that this Italian gardening club says is ["can not miss"], and lists it with some other very notable gardeners, but there don't appear to be any hits for him or his garden in the Italian WP (but maybe I don't know how to search them?) so either they're strict or he isn't notable. Dan Beale-Cocks 00:18, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment. Surely the most likely reason for the lack of an article in Italian WP is simply that nobody has got round to writing it yet. Phil Bridger (talk) 09:27, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep due to the secondary source found by Dhartung establishing notability to Wikipedia standards. --Oakshade (talk) 00:29, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.