Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ghastly

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The result of the debate was DELETE. Essjay · Talk 11:37, August 6, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ghastly

Ghastly has a webcomic, a family, and razzes the webcomic community. He's far below the bar for notability. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 07:57, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Why delete it? I personally found the article useful for doing research on web comics. It is already here, so there is no effort involved in leaving it.

(Unsigned comment from User:67.84.218.171 ) drini ☎ 23:35, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Keep, useful, and well-written.

(Unsigned vote by User:Toxicity01 ) drini ☎ 23:35, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

• Comment - The two unsigned comments above are from the two editors who wrote the article. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 10:45, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

user:Toxicity01 didn't write it, he/she merely added a photo caption and categories. user:Fallout_boy

I confess, I didn't check every diff to see who did what. I just recognized the names from seeing the history. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 09:24, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

I propose you look again. The IP 67.84.218.171 does not appear in the history for Ghastly. --Pidgeot (t) (c) (e) 23:57, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Keep, even if you hate the guy you can't deny the fact that he has contributed a lot to the world of webcomics and his work is very popular. There are articles on webcomic artists with lesser claim to fame. I'm uncertain why this one should be singled out unless it is because of the offense associated with his work.

Unsigned comment from (User:65.92.54.177) drini ☎ 23:35, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

• Comment - Hey, I know Ghastly, and he's a nice guy, if a bit of a webcomic community rabblerouser. He's just not really notable, and info about his life isn't encyclopedic. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 01:10, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

• Delete as vanity. drini ☎ 23:35, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
• Userfy --malathion ^talk 23:41, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

• Comment - Ghastly isn't a Wikipedia user; this seems to have been written by a pair of Ghastly's Ghastly Comic fans. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 01:10, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

• Delete sock-supported vanity. --Scimitar ^parley 23:48, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete vanity. Mrmcgibby 23:59, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete Google only returns two pages [1]. --best, kevin ···Kzollman | Talk··· 00:19, July 30, 2005 (UTC)
• Helps if you spell it correctly Kevin. Then Google returns 10,600 pages.[2] : Unsigned comment from (User:65.92.54.177)

Haha! I stand corrected. --best, kevin ···Kzollman | Talk··· 08:57, July 30, 2005 (UTC)

• KEEP. Change to "Chris Cracknell", clean up, and place more emphasis on his professional work rather than his personal life. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.140.62.191 (talk • contribs) 03:34, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete Strong delete, now that the sockpuppets have been brought in. - ulayiti (talk) 00:39, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
• delete; clealy vanity, and the sockpuppets only make it worse. Brighterorange 01:11, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete ghastly sock vanity. Capitalistroadster 01:16, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete the socks and anything they puppet. -Splash 02:23, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete When will they learn? Sockpuppets don't help. Ever. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 02:25, July 30, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. His webcomic is notable, therefore, he too is notable. --Pidgeot (t) (c) (e) 02:29, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

• He hasn't done anything of note beyond the webcomic. Why does he need an article of his own, rather than just a peripheral mention in the webcomic's article? - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 02:47, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

• Well, Abraham Lincoln didn't do much notable besides being President, but for some reason, we're curious about his biography anyway. I think that people who do notable things become notable themselves. Not sure that applies here, though. --malathion ^talk 02:58, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

• Horrendously bad analogy. Minor webcomics and influential Presidential terms aren't even close. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 03:21, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

• That was actully a very accurate analogy, I'll have to steal it (but replace Lincoln with JFK). user:Fallout_boy
• Rodney Caston hasn't done anything of note beside being part of Megatokyo for the first two years. No one's ever contested him having an article. And yes, while I do appreciate that MT is much more popular than GGC, that doesn't change the fact that GGC is still quite well-known and popular as well. --Pidgeot (t) (c) (e) 10:54, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

• Ah, thanks for pointing that one out. There's no info there that isn't in Megatokyo, and Rodney Caston hasn't done anything notable since. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 21:35, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

• My point was that Ghastly is far from being the only article about a person who's only been involved in one notable thing. We have plenty of those articles, but that doesn't mean they should be deleted. --Pidgeot (t) (c) (e) 21:50, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

• Clearly we have a difference of opinion about what constitutes notability. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 22:12, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

• KEEP!, but cleanup and add more professional information -user:Fallout_boy
• Delete. Wouldn't have bothered voting if it weren't for the sock puppets, so let's ensure this gets condemned. Agentsoo
• Strong Delete not notable --Cholmes75 14:42, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Notable. Stupid, but notable. Nandesuka 22:12, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete Vanity and advertising. Vain and commercial. Self-promotion. DavidH 23:37, July 30, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep -- notable webcomic artist. Being on Keenspace doesn't mean much, it's true, but GGC is #1 on Keenspace. Haikupoet 04:24, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete Vanity. Ghastly picture. DiceDiceBaby 06:26, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Notable artist/writer. I know because I just came to Wikipedia specifically to find out about whoever writes Ghastly's, and to research the authors of some other web comics (although its a bit sparce here. So it seems that the page is useful. The page should follow the Wikipedia standard formatting and style more closely. Perhaps there should even be two articles, one on the Comic, and one on the author's life, particularly his comics career. This would seem more in line with other entertainment media represented on wikip.

  P.S. I first read Ghastly's Ghastly several years ago, and, while I read several other web comics, have never read megatokyo. --Choz Cunningham 02:42, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

• Delete or Redirect to Ghastly's Ghastly Comic. Not notable by himself, only one notable work. Nifboy 08:12, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, perhaps merge some info to Ghastly's Ghastly Comic. Not notable. Teklund 11:16, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.