Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/George E. Walker
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. seresin | wasn't he just...? 04:35, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] George E. Walker
Delete Not independently notable per WP:BIO Veritas (talk) 02:17, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
- Delete: No evidence proffered that this fellow did anything other than be an ancestor of a President, let alone anything that might fulfill any element of WP:BIO. RGTraynor 03:26, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
- Keep I disagree. The man is the ancestor of two US presidents. In each case the articles of the presidents are too long to include discussion of the ancestor. Since each president includes Walker in their name, at minimum there should be an article on the Walker family. I see reasonable notability from a historical perspective -- though we would all be better off if the man had been sterile. --Kevin Murray (talk) 03:34, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
- To quote from WP:BIO: "Invalid criteria: That person A has a relationship with well-known person B is not a reason for a standalone article on A (unless significant coverage can be found on A)" Given that WP:BIO specifically enjoins the creation of an article under that premise, we need something more than "X was the ancestor of a president" ... and this article gives us nothing more. RGTraynor 03:49, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. There are notable Walkers; he isn't one of them. --Dhartung | Talk 03:54, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - the only thing that seems to be of note about this individual is that they appear in the family tree of the two Bush presidents. Aside from details of birth, parentage and offspring there is nothing here. Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 06:53, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
- Delete He rates a mention in other articles, but to put it in perspective, he was one of 16 great-great-grandparents of George H.W. Bush, and one of 32 greatgreatgreatgrandparents of the current President. He died in 1864, sixty years before the first President Bush was born. Given that George Herbert Walker was probably named after this person, one could say that the two Presidents named George Bush were indirectly named for this person, and speculate that perhaps that this person (born 1797) was named for George Washington. However, there's no indication that this person did anything of note in the first half of the 19th century. Mandsford (talk) 12:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
- Delete if he didn't do anything notable in HIS OWN lifetime, then he fails WP:N. ArcAngel (talk) 14:19, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Notability does not propagate backward through the time-space continuum to make notable otherwise utterly non-notable persons whose chromosomomes make up part of the genome of their distant notable descendants, barring any non-paternity events. Edison (talk) 04:12, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.