Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Geoff Schaller

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete as a hoax. --Coredesat 00:40, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Geoff Schaller

This article looks like blatant misinformation from beginning to end. A quick web search immediately shows that there are no notable individuals with the name of either Geoffrey Schaller or Michael Schaller. Most likely this page is someone's make-believe biography of himself or a friend (per User:Tschel). -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 07:18, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Note to closing admin: A lot of SPA's have !voted "keep". Possible meat/socks in operation, trying to negate concensus.

• Comment. One of the two main contributors to the article (who I suspect to be one in the same, truthfully) blanked the page after the AFD was posted on it. --Brad Beattie ^(talk) 08:10, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I would try {{db-blanked}} but the blanking wasn't done by the page creator. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 08:11, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

• Speedy Delete under G3 and A7. Clearly a joke/hoax. I try really hard to assume good faith, but this is ridiculous. --JaimeLesMaths 08:32, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy Delete under G3 and A7, doesn't meet them. Hello32020 10:44, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
• 'Delete Clear nonsense. Emeraude 11:59, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete nonsense Arnoutf 13:41, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete either nonnotable or nonsense. M1ss1ontomars2k4 ^{(T | C | @)} 01:12, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Very dubious and almost slanderous claims (which would be odd if the subject wrote it) without any sources. --Marriedtofilm 17:50, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep I've heard of this guy before. He is on the internet, you just have to look hard. --beatdook04 1:46, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep I've read things about this man before. I can't remember where. Perhaps a simple google search won't prove this wrong. I'll keep looking and if i find a source I'll go ahead and help the author out. --ilikethemcanadians 6:00, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
• Don't Delete REAL PERSON. he was in the Alto Adige (newspaper from Italy) when he was in a car accident a few weeks ago. --tarheelblue87 6:12, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't doubt that he is a real person; however, does a car accident make him notable enough to have an encyclopedia entry? I highly doubt that there is any validity in most of the information on this article. Tschel 14:33, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

• Keep I'm from Toronto and believe me this guy is real. not sure about all of the detail but he is a real person and in that...profession. --leafsnation 6:20, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

He was mentioned in the Toronto Star a few months ago. I say the article stays. --leafsnation 6:20, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

• I'm not sure what news story you're referring to, but Schaller appears nowhere in the archives for the Toronto Star. --Tschel 19:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - clear nonsense and a hoax - his only claim to fame is his number of socks - Peripitus (Talk) 12:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Completely real. not a hoax. I live in the Toronto area and it sounds rediculous but he is a real guy. maybe more sources would make for a better article. --espn101 8:58, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

If that is the case, and he truly is the leader of the well-known Gambino crime family, then why does Google News return zero news articles containing his name? Tschel 14:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

• Keep I thought i read about him getting in a car accident. it's real. --tigersin06 9:00, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep the sources speak for themselves. --gopanthers 10:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

You might want to verify the "sources" on the article. The two Italian news sites make absolutely no mention of anything related to the Wikipedia article, and the only source that even contains the name "Schaller" is a Google Pages userpage. --Tschel 15:48, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. I just noticed that I hadn't yet cast my official vote! See my comment at the top of the page. --Tschel 19:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
• Comment. If there is any doubt about whether or not this article should be deleted, please consult the Wikipedia article on the Gambino crime family, where you can see a timeline of all the real bosses of this family up to now. (The editor of Geoff Schaller made major edits to this timeline, in order to fit "Geoff Schaller" onto the list. Fortunately, someone noticed this and reverted the page back to its original form.) Furthermore, it's worth noting that all of the users who favor keeping this article have created their accounts within the last 24 hours. I can't know for sure if this is sock-puppetry, but there are some pretty serious signs of it. --Tschel 14:56, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, non-notable. Daniel.Bryant 08:30, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.