Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Genesis Communications Network

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The result was delete. Punkmorten 09:34, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Genesis Communications Network

Non notable radio. Peephole 16:44, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Morton devonshire 18:03, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete browsing the website I see that GCN appears to have all of ten employees, receives 3000 visits per day and transmits about 25GB per month. Lets assume that they broadcast 24 or 48kbps (which seems to be about what most iTunes radio stations broadcast) 25GB * 8 = 200gb/month divided by 30 = 6.66gb per day / 24 = 277mb per hour / 60 = 4629 kb / minute = 77kbps. So at any given time only 1-3 people are listening to this station online. If we assume that every listener listens for one hour than each listener is receiving 86400kb @24kbps and 172800 @48kbps, this would give the station 1150 or 2300 listeners a month. (I'm hoping my assumptions here are correct, please note this is a "back of the envelope" calculation). GabrielF 18:17, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Advertising. Jayjg ^(talk) 18:18, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Advertising Hello32020 20:13, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
• Weak keep if it's given a total rewrite, otherwise delete. GCN has actual radio affiliates, though I'm not sure how many (a couple of few dozen?), so it's a legit US radio network, even if the vast majority of its programming consists of kookery. But the article cannot stand in its current form, as it's just a spam stub. --Aaron 20:34, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Comment:Could you please provide more information on radio affiliates? I browsed through the GCN website - it looks like they broadcast on satellite and shortwave but I couldn't find any information on actual radio stations that carry GCN. GabrielF 22:34, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Comment: I couldn't find any affiliate list on the GCN site, but it's SOP for American radio networks to not offer a full affiliate list to the public, as most of the stations that would be on it only carry one or two of the network's shows. I went to some individual show websites instead; here's "The Joe Mazza Show' listing 12 stations [1], the "Bobby Likis Car Clinic" (claims 100+ affiliates plus a slot on Sirius) [2], and of course Alex Jones (listing 42 stations if my quick eyeballing of the page is correct) [3]. These GCN people may fly under the American media/pop culture radar for the most part, but they are out there and have real stations airing their programming. As such, I think the network probably meets WP:N. --Aaron 00:32, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, clearly NN. I've had sites more popular than this one. Can't find sources to evaluate the popularity of the radio show, but, what the heck, it's shortwave. My Alt Account 23:08, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom, Alt Account and and Jayjg's analysis. JoshuaZ 23:16, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom, Jayjg. Even less notable than the hosts that are on it. --Tbeatty 06:55, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete not notable.--MONGO 21:26, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. --Aude (talk contribs as tagcloud) 02:33, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
• delete per nomination. Crockspot 04:58, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete non-notable, advertising. Sandy 19:25, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete barely a stub, and no evidence of article showing improvement since June. No assertion of notability, not even broadcast radius or listenership. Only connection to notable figures seems to be Alex Jones.--Rosicrucian 00:36, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

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