Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gay Pimpin' with Jonny McGovern

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. WjBscribe 02:32, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gay Pimpin' with Jonny McGovern

Gay Pimpin' with Jonny McGovern (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

A podcast. Unusually for a podcats article, it is drawn entirely from personal observations and lacks any independent sources. Oh, OK, so that's not actually unusual. It's hard to establish the significance of a free podcast, and to my eye this doesn't even try that hard. Guy (Help!) 16:57, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Question: What are the notability requirements for podcasts, television shows, or radio shows? What makes this podcast any different from Rising Damp? Just curious. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 18:10, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

reliable sources, for one thing. See WP:WEB. Corvus cornix 18:49, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Gotcha. I'm not going to argue WP:OTHERSTUFF, but... we do have a ton of television shows with no reliable sources whatsoever. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 22:20, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

• Delete. At least until they change it to Gay Pimpin with GEORGE McGovern. Qworty 21:10, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
• Merge & Delete Merge with Jonny McGovern and then delete seperate article in question. -- ALLSTAR ECHO 09:01, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

• Keep It's already on Jonny McGovern, although a general section for it leaving out a lot of content. If the content from this article in question can be expounded on more at Jonny McGovern, then it should be and this article in question deleted. Otherwise, KEEP -- ALLSTAR ECHO 09:03, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

• Strong Keep After thinking about it more, it's taken a life of its own and deserves its own article. Just way too much stuff to be merged to Jonny McGovern. -- ALLSTAR ECHO 09:55, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

• Delete as non notable unless reliable sources establishing notability are given. Nuttah68 13:34, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

• comment. I've added several sources to help establish notability. As it's podcast, and a gay one at that, I fully expect coverage to be mainly focused within the podcasting communities that embrace openly gay issues which generally falls outside mainstream and print coverage. If I come across some others i'll try to add them as well. Benjiboi 15:11, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

• Keep - reliable sources exist, including this IN Magazine feature story (link added to article). More will undoubtedly emerge as McGovern and the show continue to grow in popularity and notability. Otto4711 14:51, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. I've been reading about this guy for years so there are reliable sources out there but it will certainly take work to find them. I considered merging option and don't see it as a good option as there is so much relevant to this show that wouldn't be appropriate on his bio - we'd quickly say time to start an article anyway. This simply needs to be improved through regular editing. Benjiboi 15:09, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - established notability with Nuttah68 Otto4711's ref. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 16:58, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

• With whose ref!? Otto4711 17:57, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

• Keep per improvements by User:SatyrTN et al. to meet the WP:HEY standard. Bearian 17:16, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.